Please define 'organic foods' and 'synthetic'.
That is all very well. But I assume you can provide an independent analysis to back up your claim.
Otherwise, your claims are completely unfounded.
Does anyone know and able to answer if, in the war against orf where the land sufficiently supplies the TE's, does the rock salt control orf as effectively as the DB orf buckets in which case a saving can be made?
Does anyone know and able to answer if, in the war against orf where the land sufficiently supplies the TE's, does the rock salt control orf as effectively as the DB orf buckets in which case a saving can be made?[/QUOT
[FONT=arial, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Since orf is believed to be caused by an immune deficiency, it would make sense to supply Full Spectrum minerals, which help make, Vitamins, and enzymes, thereby promoting immunity health in our animals.
Every Mineral is dependant on every other mineral (all of them) Red Himalayan Salt has many other positives And is very cost effective, Check out your Vet bills, what is one more healthy lamb worth, or one less vet bill?
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Please define 'organic foods' and 'synthetic'.
We're trialling no longer orf vaccinating some lambs this year. Because orf is a risk I'm going to put out rock salt for the lambs. I tried the Frobuts from DB in the past but worked out they were costing more than the vaccine did.
Where do you people get rock salt from. Ideally looking for bigger lumps so probably best to buy a bulk bag.
Last load I bought, Mole Valley was significantly cheaper than anyone else.
There is Pink Himalayan 6%.
So you would need 2.3 times as much Pink to get the same value.
There is Premium Red Himalayan 14% pure Bioavailable Minerals
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I'm not sure that there is any himalayan salt that is non-organic, certainly the last load I bought from Mole was organic.
@SeamillSaltworks how much per t/tote delivered to mid Cornwall then?
I'm not sure that there is any himalayan salt that is non-organic, certainly the last load I bought from Mole was organic.
@SeamillSaltworks how much per t/tote delivered to mid Cornwall then?
So your ‘organic’ salt has a higher level of trace elements, than the red salt that has more ‘impurities’? When exactly does an impurity become a trace element?
On the ‘organic’ argument (& I won’t even reply to the ‘organic is always better for you’ claim), surely any lump salt that is mined from seams made underground eons ago, has to be ‘organic’ and natural? It matters not which end of the seam it gets chipped from.
So your ‘organic’ salt has a higher level of trace elements, than the red salt that has more ‘impurities’? When exactly does an impurity become a trace element?
On the ‘organic’ argument (& I won’t even reply to the ‘organic is always better for you’ claim), surely any lump salt that is mined from seams made underground eons ago, has to be ‘organic’ and natural? It matters not which end of the seam it gets chipped from.
I'm not sure that there is any himalayan salt that is non-organic, certainly the last load I bought from Mole was organic.
@SeamillSaltworks how much per t/tote delivered to mid Cornwall then?
No dealers, agents or staff.......so you might need a boat and a pick.
Sheep should have access to Mineral Salts it at all times, 24/7 / 365, which allows them to get their required quantities of essential nutrients promoting their health and immunity and protecting your investment.
I think it is generally accepted that cattle and sheep will consume minerals up to the point where there salt requirement is satisfied. And at that point their consumption will drop, so it is probable that even if salt is available ad lib. they will not consume more than is necessary.
Manufacturers of feed blocks make use of this. They increase the salt content of their blocks purely to limit intake. If the salt content is not enhanced, intakes of the blocks would be too high to be economic, and their sales would drop.
I spoke to my vet this morning after dealing with stitching up my tup who picked a fight with his reflection (stood on bale next to truck - by bye window).
"oh is thst back again"
"get bloods and soil tested and find out what your sheep need and formulate the treatment as needed"
Showed her this thread and she laughed.... By all means offer salt but she was clear - salt helps orf because the virus can't survive a saline environment so if you have orf go for it.... Orf sores carry bacteria too causing mastitis so again it hasa place.
The te levels are so low as to be "irrelevant" , one bolus has more than 500kg of Salt of te.
I bolus my sheep to address known blood confirmed issues. We worked it out thst my animals would need to consume 600g a day of salt to get their te needs. This would kill them.
I'll take my vets advice. A vet who has helped me double dlwg and increase lambing percentage by 28% over 4 years, and has helped me eradicate sway back, most scours and worms as a problem from my flock. She took another set of bloods today as its a while since done - and we noted on the last results sodium was actually quite high - she was clear that she would be concerned for welfare if I put salt out as it would push sodium high and cause heart issues. All for te intake so low as to be less than the forage analysis my grass shows....
Oh wait
I'd be better suplimenting my sheep with grass....
So
Salt has a place
Anyone who cares about their sheep speak to their vet and find out what is actually needed for Your animals.... Yours
And analyse your soil, blood and forage.... If you have low sodium go for it. It will help. If you have orf... Go for it...
But for gods sake don't buy it for snake oil value....
I spoke to my vet this morning after dealing with stitching up my tup who picked a fight with his reflection (stood on bale next to truck - by bye window).
"oh is thst back again"
"get bloods and soil tested and find out what your sheep need and formulate the treatment as needed"
Showed her this thread and she laughed.... By all means offer salt but she was clear - salt helps orf because the virus can't survive a saline environment so if you have orf go for it.... Orf sores carry bacteria too causing mastitis so again it hasa place.
The te levels are so low as to be "irrelevant" , one bolus has more than 500kg of Salt of te.
I bolus my sheep to address known blood confirmed issues. We worked it out thst my animals would need to consume 600g a day of salt to get their te needs. This would kill them.
I'll take my vets advice. A vet who has helped me double dlwg and increase lambing percentage by 28% over 4 years, and has helped me eradicate sway back, most scours and worms as a problem from my flock. She took another set of bloods today as its a while since done - and we noted on the last results sodium was actually quite high - she was clear that she would be concerned for welfare if I put salt out as it would push sodium high and cause heart issues. All for te intake so low as to be less than the forage analysis my grass shows....
Oh wait
I'd be better suplimenting my sheep with grass....
So
Salt has a place
Anyone who cares about their sheep speak to their vet and find out what is actually needed for Your animals.... Yours
And analyse your soil, blood and forage.... If you have low sodium go for it. It will help. If you have orf... Go for it...
But for gods sake don't buy it for snake oil value....
Most veterinarians do have at least a semester (3 hrs a week for 8 wks) 24? hrs course on nutrition in general. And a lot more information on the subject is scattered throughout other courses in vet school. So the idea that we know nothing about the subject is simply ridiculous. However, it is fair to acknowledge that most veterinarians are not “experts” in nutrition if by this one means they have extensive specialized training in the subject. The real “experts” in this area are board-certified veterinary nutritionists, individuals who have advanced residency training in nutrition and have passed the board certification exam.
One of the largest expenses going into the Farm is your Vet Bill.
From The Cats Bird seat.?
Let us try this. If we look at Medical Science,? Where the largest killer was, as of last year, No.# 1 Heart Disease, with Cancer breathing down its neck. The third largest killer untill last month or maybe a couple of months before that, was Strokes, Strokes have now become the fourth largest killer The new and undisputed No# 3 is Prescription Medicine. So our Medicine has become our third largest killer, and that's a kind of a Bankruptcy. Medical Science where a Doctor spends Seven years to become fully qualified, has approximately 20hrs of nutritional training.
How much nutrition training do doctors receive?
"Only 92 of the 106 Medical School even responded; however, only 32 schools (30%) required a separate nutrition course. On average, students received 23.9 contact hours during medical school (range: 2–70 h).
That response was worrying, illogical or poorly translated to English and self contradictory - questioning the qualifications of vets.... Please.
I've just gotta go get the salt spreader
I get the impression that you are not from the UK. Or even planet earth.
I get the impression that you are not from the UK. Or even planet earth.