Bourgault or Dutch Openers for Horsch Co drill

spikeislander said:

Any ball park figures on the conversions required to change and rough cost of points , assuming I need two different styles with beans to do.
The fabled blocking of beans worries me a bit so what’s the best to avoid this ? And might try direct I suspect 3 sets needed now ?

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Jack Russell said:

If your buying new then you can spec it with Dutch from the dealer.

We are currently running a Vaderstad for our late drilling. High seed rates and close spacing gives the competition. We bought an old CO6 and am trying to decide what coulters to put on it. I’ve nearly convinced myself what works for the Vaderstad doesn’t apply to the CO. So am thinking 75mm Coulter on 250mm centres will give less disturbance and then hopefully the row will close in to smother the bg out. Maybe totally wrong, I should know by spring.

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spikeislander said:

I’m considering a 8 m sprinter and in time will change the points as probably original horsch ones first . On a 8m I believe the row spacing are fairly wide which concerns me ?
With the band sowing I hope it will spread it wide enough but if I change to the other makes and the points are narrower do people feel the row is too wide?
Crop competition being a part of bg control I don’t want to take a step back at all?
Thanks

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Fred said:

We have run the Dutch openers on a Horsch Sprinter for 1year , we have 1",. 2" paired and 5" open , we sowed all OSR with 2" paired with liquid fert , all beans with 1" and all cereals with 5" ,

The OSR was all direct drilled this was a better solution than the Duett esp in heavy land , however the issue has been combine wheelings , where the land was soft at combining, depth was too shallow and the seed grew but died later.

The winter beans were all into ploughed land or sumo, they look well ,the drill took less pulling however with big beans or a little rubbish from poor cleaning they can block in the opening , we did put a tube on the back but soon removed it.
Spring beans into over wintered oats cover crop sticky mess, slot was covered better than with standard solo point however wheelings might be an issue , ground was soft and wet as snot underneath.

The wheat & winter barley was all into Sumo trio /Horsch TerranoMT , followed by joker , drilled, looks really well, establishment was easy this year, wide band is fine, used to it with duett.

Spring crops not drilled , too wet ,

A couple of trial direct drilling blocks , 1" sowed direct drilled wheat , looks a picture , travels really well,
1" direct drilled S beans , into reclaimed land , cant cultivate deeper than 2" anyway due to stones beans all chitting .

Overall they take less HP than the Horsch points , they are not quick to change as you might imagine , you will need new roll pins each time you change , invest in some proper punches .

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