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I believe the bog-standard Defender with no seats, carpets. plastic engine cover or even a steering wheel is called the 'workshop edition' as it comes ready for it's natural habitat and well prepared for where it will see the majority of it's time.

You are not going to air-transport many Defenders these days- even the old one does not fit in a Merlin helicopter.
 

CornishTone

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You are not going to air-transport many Defenders these days- even the old one does not fit in a Merlin helicopter.

The original Light Weights, and all subsequent military LR’s, were designed to be under slung during helicopter operations, never inside. Bearing in mind the helicopters at the time were Wessex and Sea King “Junglies” which had a relatively small lift capability by today’s standards. I’d venture a Merlin would comfortably lift pretty much any Defender.

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Cowabunga

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I believe the bog-standard Defender with no seats, carpets. plastic engine cover or even a steering wheel is called the 'workshop edition' as it comes ready for it's natural habitat and well prepared for where it will see the majority of it's time.

You are not going to air-transport many Defenders these days- even the old one does not fit in a Merlin helicopter.
I was thinking more about the Lockheed Martin C5 and UK's Airbus A400M Atlas. Its not a question of whether the Defender will fit, but how many you can stack in the available space to transport quickly to a theatre of operations.
 

pgk

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Because it will do the same job and will therefore actually be in competition for many potential buyers. If those buyers are more commercially oriented, guess which the majority will buy? Forget the badge. Almost forget the price. Look at the vehicle and what it’s expected to do.
The Defender, I’m afraid, is yet another JLR product aimed at the luxury high-spender market and, as such, is mainly in competition at its price point almost always with other JLR vehicles. It will probably be up against the Disco5 and Velar in its consumer [not commercial] guise, which I suspect most sales will be.

What with Brexit’s probable effect on my business, the inevitable pressure to reduce livestock production by price pressure, and the probable unavailability of commercial versions from the get-go, it looks increasingly like I will be asking for my deposit back.

JLR’s survival is the least of my worries.
Saw a number of swb versions this am whilst taking call in layby in south warwickshire. Clearly discernable shape despite zebra camouflage. Look a more practical proposition than old 90 being wider and good size rear door. On steel wheels looked fine, quiet although running on not most aggressive tyre pattern. Panel fit like any modern car so no draughts. Impression is it is looks like a butch swb mk4 discovery, I suspect this type of vehicle will be very popular in home counties and cities if emissions or ev version are available. Every surf boarder will want one. They headed off when I wandered up to have a look underneath!
 
It has a 300 horsepower engine, 8 speed automatic gearbox and probably will drive very nicely for a car of it's mass, on or off road. But cheap it won't be.

The Evoke and Disco sport are both pointless compared to the competitor efforts, the Mercedes and Volvo offerings are far better.
Ffs just be easier to get a 2.7 F150.:rolleyes:
 

Muck Spreader

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The original Light Weights, and all subsequent military LR’s, were designed to be under slung during helicopter operations, never inside. Bearing in mind the helicopters at the time were Wessex and Sea King “Junglies” which had a relatively small lift capability by today’s standards. I’d venture a Merlin would comfortably lift pretty much any Defender.

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The original MOD spec for the Lightweight was that 2 vehicles could be placed side by side inside an Argosy aircraft, hence it was 4 inches narrower than a standard IIA. As for the Wessex carrying one it had to lose 204kg on a standard IIA. But by the time it entered service the Wessex payload had been further reduced, so it was never used transport them.
 
They sell about a million F trucks a year in the USA. I doubt whether they will bother making a right hand drive version for the UK where they might sell a couple of hundred.
I know!
I'm just pipe dreaming. A big diesel one would have been perfect for my workload a while ago, hence my interest in them.
Times change, as does work, and my need is for an economical distance runner, and not for a super heavy duty pickup any more.
I still like the Ford F family of pickups though!

Astonishing fact....a new Ford pickup is sold roughly every 35 second!!
 

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