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JD6920s · Aug 15, 2019

Thinking of trying a few on a field we need to drain in the autumn after harvest.
Which are best, late sown winter or springs sown in spring, as it’ll probably be too wet in between, and which come to harvest first?
The field has quite bad Italian rye grass in the 2nd wheat at the moment.

yellow belly · Aug 15, 2019

Spring for grass weed control

ih1455xl · Aug 15, 2019

Winter planted in autum or winter planted in the spring always used to grow wizzard now on tundra planted end of oct
averaged 2.25T/Ac pre em kerb and one fungicide always cut beans before the wheat normally on a damp day so they don't shed out

Against_the_grain · Aug 15, 2019

yellow belly said:
Spring for grass weed control

Couldn't think of a worse crop for grass weed contril

yellow belly · Aug 15, 2019

Notill spring beans April planted after a cover crop and a layer of chopped straw from previous crop full ground cover with no light getting to the soil
Glyphosate in February and just before beans emerge and plenty of seed

JD6920s · Aug 15, 2019

yellow belly said:
Notill spring beans April planted after a cover crop and a layer of chopped straw from previous crop full ground cover with no light getting to the soil
Glyphosate in February and just before beans emerge and plenty of seed

What drill do you use and what depth would you place the seed?

Exfarmer · Aug 15, 2019

Seed must be as deep as possible , unless you want to feed the local rooks

JD6920s · Aug 15, 2019

Exfarmer said:
Seed must be as deep as possible , unless you want to feed the local rooks

In the spring??

snarling bee · Aug 15, 2019

Okay, we heard you the first time!!

Exfarmer · Aug 15, 2019

JD6920s said:
In the spring??

Yes

Yes

Yes

Boing

Brisel · Aug 16, 2019

Against_the_grain said:
Couldn't think of a worse crop for grass weed contril

If you didn't use glyphosate in February, I'd agree with you. You've still got all the ACCase options like C Max, Laser etc.

ZXR17 · Aug 16, 2019

C Max on beans ? I thought it wasn't registered for beans .
Rye grass control in spring beans very difficult here .

Brisel · Aug 16, 2019

ZXR17 said:
C Max on beans ? I thought it wasn't registered for beans .
Rye grass control in spring beans very difficult here .

I'd better check... You're right, C Max is not approved.

yellow belly · Aug 16, 2019

gd
but the drill used makes no difference
plant when conditions are good enough for the system if it is too wet waiting is never a bad thing as weeds are later just increase the seed rate

notill beans can be harvested one day and wheat planted the next if conditions are dry enough
if it is too wet never push it currently too wet for any land work here
with the wet in 2012 it was better to plant in april 2013 than any time from july 2012 to march 2013
I do not plant winter beans because in a wet year they breed black grass and cost more to grow for the same yield

JD6920s · Aug 17, 2019

yellow belly said:
gd
but the drill used makes no difference
plant when conditions are good enough for the system if it is too wet waiting is never a bad thing as weeds are later just increase the seed rate

notill beans can be harvested one day and wheat planted the next if conditions are dry enough
if it is too wet never push it currently too wet for any land work here
with the wet in 2012 it was better to plant in april 2013 than any time from july 2012 to march 2013
I do not plant winter beans because in a wet year they breed black grass and cost more to grow for the same yield

Do you desiccate your beans before harvest?

ih1455xl · Aug 17, 2019

No need to dedicate beans just don't cake it in fungicide and they will die off naturally mine were drilled with gd in to failed rape
Beans love gypsum aswell if you can get hold of any

JD6920s · Aug 17, 2019

ih1455xl said:
No need to dedicate beans just don't cake it in fungicide and they will die off naturally mine were drilled with gd in to failed rape
Beans love gypsum aswell if you can get hold of any

But when do you expect to harvest them and how low can the moisture get?

ih1455xl · Aug 17, 2019

Cut mine last week before before I started any wheat they were 15-16% have got them I a bin with a pedistal fan going

Steevo · Aug 17, 2019

JD6920s said:
Do you desiccate your beans before harvest?

Its usually any weed that causes the trouble with beans. Mayweed is one of the worst I find - pops up in tramlines sometimes, or just bare patches.

Brisel · Aug 17, 2019

The only reason I've desiccated beans was for weeds.

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