How would you steal a low loader trailer?

David.

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Mixed Farmer
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J11 M40
Where did I say all of them?
I thought we were talking about the crew who are suspected of having killed the policeman.
 
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Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
There are legitimate was of reducing your tax liability then there is having no fixed abode and several different names so it’s hard for authorities to trace exactly who you are and how many times they are paying you benefits each month. The difference is honesty and integrity which very few travellers have any of.

I was 100% behind you right until the last sentence. To generalise like that is nearly always inappropriate, and the evidence from others here would back that up. Be honest - how many travellers have you had first hand experiences with, against the population as a whole?
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Hiding behind such a facile comment is, sadly, something I'm beginning to expect from you.

Facile, do you know what it means? If so, which with your having used it so incorrectly seems unlikely, you are an utter hypocrite, because you're the one who couldn't come up with any rhetoric to fit the discussion, and so reverted to Nazi references. (y)

Oh, and where have I 'hidden'? Happy to go through this very thoroughly to demonstrate your inability, ignorance and stupidity. Unless you're scared and are going to run away from the argument and hide in a bunker somewhere like a little swastika-wearing girl... :)

Will check in tonight for your next try...
 

Grassman

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Location
Derbyshire
And if there is evidence that they were involved they should be skinned and rolled in salt.
The Government who run policing, are to blame for this, they have allowed these sites to become no go areas like inner city ghettoes were in the 80s.
A thief is a turd whether he is black or white, lives in a house or a caravan.
If there is to be one good thing to come out of the tragic death of the policeman is that the police may start to take the crime epidemic that travellers create seriously.
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
Facile, do you know what it means? If so, which with your having used it so incorrectly seems unlikely, you are an utter hypocrite, because you're the one who couldn't come up with any rhetoric to fit the discussion, and so reverted to Nazi references. (y)

Oh, and where have I 'hidden'? Happy to go through this very thoroughly to demonstrate your inability, ignorance and stupidity. Unless you're scared and are going to run away from the argument and hide in a bunker somewhere like a little swastika-wearing girl... :)

Will check in tonight for your next try...

Facile - Easy to perform or achieve according to my Collins Dictionary. In other words you were lazily applying a tired old cliche and got called out on it. Get a grip on your knickers and accept that the great towering intellect, the very scourge of wrong thinkers (non Tories) on some two bit website is reduced to name calling and pathetic attempts to engage in cerebral jousting the better to prove he can still get his legal dick up.

Now, the question is would you be willing to put your real name to that post? It might even be actionable as it is, you wouldn't know a half decent lawyer would you?
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Facile - Easy to perform or achieve according to my Collins Dictionary. In other words you were lazily applying a tired old cliche and got called out on it. Get a grip on your knickers and accept that the great towering intellect, the very scourge of wrong thinkers (non Tories) on some two bit website is reduced to name calling and pathetic attempts to engage in cerebral jousting the better to prove he can still get his legal dick up.

Now, the question is would you be willing to put your real name to that post? It might even be actionable as it is, you wouldn't know a half decent lawyer would you?

I'll admit that I took your use of the word to be in its sense most relative to the context of the discussion, i.e. deliberately ignoring how complicated the issue at hand is / was. No matter, either suit my purpose which was, with an irony you entirely missed, to reply in kind. You made the clichéd Nazi reference so I reposted with the bleeding obvious come-back of Godwin's Law. I wasn't applying a 'tired old cliché' but, rather, holding a mirror up to you - which I'll admit, again, I'd thought you'd have recognised... got it now?

And for the rest... :ROFLMAO: (I can't help the crap smiley...) I don't think that this is a two-bit website and if you do why bother with it? I think it's one of the best you'll find on the net. Although I'm to the right on economic and EU issues, I'm a social liberal, a republican and a supporter of PR, clearly not a Tory, and not a supporter of them unless a given manifesto - for what that's worth - suits me, so you're wrong there again. Cerebral jousting? I'm saddened you think so, nothing of the kind from this end, just an substitute-pub laugh and no more. I have no idea what your reference to an erection and the law is about, a private fetish of yours perhaps; best not mentioned really. (y)

Would I put my real name to a post on a forum that I use a pseudonym and an avatar on? :banghead: Hmm... no, I wouldn't. But if you can find a way of us exchanging details with an absolute guarantee of anonymity beyond ourselves I'll be delighted if you want to try and bring an action. But the problem you'll have is that you'll be needing to bring it under the Defamation Act, and a S1 defence therein is 'truth'. Now, I have never had any experience of defamation law since Bar School, where I studied a bit and watched a few cases; but even my miniscule knowledge and understanding of it is sufficient to let me know that you'd be bug*ered. Over to you... :)

As for half-decent lawyers, yes, I know loads; but I was a good enough one myself in my own field to know to instruct a very good one in a field I know little of, should I ever have the need to.
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
I'll admit that I took your use of the word to be in its sense most relative to the context of the discussion, i.e. deliberately ignoring how complicated the issue at hand is / was. No matter, either suit my purpose which was, with an irony you entirely missed, to reply in kind. You made the clichéd Nazi reference so I reposted with the bleeding obvious come-back of Godwin's Law. I wasn't applying a 'tired old cliché' but, rather, holding a mirror up to you - which I'll admit, again, I'd thought you'd have recognised... got it now?

And for the rest... :ROFLMAO: (I can't help the crap smiley...) I don't think that this is a two-bit website and if you do why bother with it? I think it's one of the best you'll find on the net. Although I'm to the right on economic and EU issues, I'm a social liberal, a republican and a supporter of PR, clearly not a Tory, and not a supporter of them unless a given manifesto - for what that's worth - suits me, so you're wrong there again. Cerebral jousting? I'm saddened you think so, nothing of the kind from this end, just an substitute-pub laugh and no more. I have no idea what your reference to an erection and the law is about, a private fetish of yours perhaps; best not mentioned really. (y)

Would I put my real name to a post on a forum that I use a pseudonym and an avatar on? :banghead: Hmm... no, I wouldn't. But if you can find a way of us exchanging details with an absolute guarantee of anonymity beyond ourselves I'll be delighted if you want to try and bring an action. But the problem you'll have is that you'll be needing to bring it under the Defamation Act, and a S1 defence therein is 'truth'. Now, I have never had any experience of defamation law since Bar School, where I studied a bit and watched a few cases; but even my miniscule knowledge and understanding of it is sufficient to let me know that you'd be bug*ered. Over to you... :)

As for half-decent lawyers, yes, I know loads; but I was a good enough one myself in my own field to know to instruct a very good one in a field I know little of, should I ever have the need to.

Jeez lad, are there no women to be shagged out your way on a Saturday night? Self serving piffle the lot of it as is immedietly obvious to the most casual observer, but if it fills the hours then fair enough.
 
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David.

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Mixed Farmer
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J11 M40
If there is to be one good thing to come out of the tragic death of the policeman is that the police may start to take the crime epidemic that travellers create seriously.
Talk to the police on the ground, and they take it very seriously already.
They are somewhat hampered by the lack of political will, and therefore lack the resources and backup to tackle the problem.
 

D14

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Nothing particular to report; just commenting on the tendency always to assume the worst. I am not immune to this myself.
If you ostracise and revile people for long enough, they will become the anuses you expect them to be; works for prisoners, youth gangs, itinerant theives, naughty children....

I was out last night just at a local Harvester for a quick bite to eat on the way home. In the corner on a large round table was a group of pikeys. They stuck out like a sore thumb. The 7 kids we up and down like yoyo’s running riot. There was food all over the floor. They were noisy. They were swearing.

When it came to paying they kicked off saying it was poor food, poor service etc. The manageress wouldn’t back down and stood her ground asking for payment. Initially they tried with fake £20’s which the manager clocked and refused. The man was aggressive and over standing the manageress but she wouldn’t budge. Eventually he paid in Euro’s which they checked and subsequently accepted.

I was no more than 15ft away from the whole thing. Vile creatures because they aren’t human. Had I not had my children with me I would of said something as they were an utter disgrace to mankind.

I’d be training my staff to recognise them and any suspected are refused entry.
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Dont worry, I have a Son in Law who manages a Pets At Home store, and they have regular offenders. So am well aware that among the traveller types, there are a disproportionately high number who are excrement wrapped in skin.
But among their number are some who are alright too.
That is all I am saying, you cannot generalise.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Jeez lad, are there no women to be shagged out your way on a Saturday night? Self serving piffle the lot of it as is immedietly obvious to the most casual observer, but if it fills the hours then fair enough.
I am not allowed to shag any women other than Mrs Danllan, on any night or day of the week. And, anyway, love Wales and especially Sir Gar though I do, there is no getting away from the fact that most of the young ladies in the immediate vicinity tend towards being a bit too well-nourished, disinclined to approach soap and rather keen on baler twine as a fashion accessory. Not my sort, so I brought one in from elsewhere. (y)

Of course, I don't know how long it takes you to craft your posts; but I don't consider that spending five minutes on a few paragraphs to educate the needy is time ill spent. Clearly I can't hope to compete against your biting deconstruction of my points nor respond with the same level of pithy comebacks. So I am just left wondering if your total inability to spot the irony of accusing someone of the very thing you write... indicates that you're a Yank in hiding. :scratchhead:
 
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Scribus

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Central Atlantic
I am not allowed to shag any women other than Mrs Danllan, on any night or day of the week. And, anyway, love Wales and especially Sir Gar though I do, there is no getting away from the fact that most of the young ladies in the immediate vicinity tend towards being a bit too well-nourished, disinclined to approach soap and rather keen on baler twine as a fashion accessory. Not my sort, so I brought one in from elsewhere. (y)

Of course, I don't know how long it takes you to craft your posts; but I don't consider that spending five minutes on a few paragraphs to educate the needy is time ill spent. Clearly I can't hope to compete against your biting deconstruction of my points nor respond with the same level of pithy comebacks. So I am just left wondering if your total inability to spot the irony of accusing someone of the very thing you write... indicates that you're a Yank in hiding. :scratchhead:

Whatever..... (about one and a half nanoseconds)
 
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