Boris has to undo the damage done by May and Hammond
Boris is doing well
- Thread starter bobk
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Boris has to undo the damage done by May and Hammond
farmgineer
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Bonfire night is coming, perhaps a lesson from history could tell us what to do next if they cant get their act together...?
Hindsight
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But your referendum didn't say Leave without a deal either. Only Remain and Leave were on the ballot paper. And therein lies your quandary. Maybe my idea of Leave is different to your idea of Leave. Who should have the final say??
The withdrawal agreement May agreed wont change by a single word even under
Boris's deal only the political deceleration
Hindsight
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I wonder if anyone will apologise to her if Bojo basically gets the May WA through Parliament. Hey ho.
Bojo is going to need an extension even if a deal is agreed next week. There isnt time to get it passed and legislation threw in all the appropriate parliaments etc
H200GT
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My idea of leave may well be different to yours, but they do have one thing in common, both state leave. Its up to MP’s to get the job done to the best of their ability, they should be united in that goal.
Had a chat with Leo have we ?even the press are guessing
The hair fluffer was interviewed by sophie ridge 2 sundays ago. Interviews on YouTube. Clearly stated withdrawal agreement wont be altered
Oh ffs . get real
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This is what I was driving at.
Old McDonald
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If you really mean your opening remark then you are a Leaver. You cannot speak for the other 16m+ people who voted Remain. If things are left as they are then ever closer union will occur, it is unstoppable because it at the very heart of the whole purpose of having an EU. Your last sentence is laughable. Paying into the EU for evermore is not "the best deal going". It is the best deal the UK can have with the EU, but it most certainly is not "the best deal going".
I know @rob1 has already referred to it, and I have not needed to post the following since Tuesday:
Nothing has changed, the ever closer union of the members of the EU has in fact become a lot closer since 1957. The introduction of the € changed things for ever for those who took it up. A major move. Countries no longer have their own currency.
We already know. See immediately above.
No member can get out of ever closer union. No member can leave now unless all the others agree - a nice friendly sort of arrangement some think.
You think 2yrs work can be binned and replaced in a weekend?
The political deceleration is the only thing up for negotiation atm
We will have to wait for the Queen's Speech. Does she normally have much, if any, input to what she reads?
Maybe this time she will hint that there is no possibility that she will concede sovereignty to the EU, in a similar vein to when she hoped the Scots would think carefully before the independence referendum.
Or maybe she is part of a very long-term plan for Germany to dominate the whole of Europe.
The House of Windsor came into being in 1917, when the name was adopted as the British Royal Family's official name by a proclamation of King George V, replacing the historic name of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
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Utter rubbish!!! I dont agree with anything you have written. You keep bringing up "ever closer union",as if you and you alone are the only person that has read the original treaty.Tell me,what language was it originally written in? The ever closer union was always going to be desirable in 1957,not long after WW2 with all the damage it inflicted on the world.What we pay into the EU is peanuts compared to what we get out of it,we actually give N.Ireland more per year! The ever closer union has gone as far as it ever will now,all beneficial. No member can get out of the EU now? laughable on your part.Any country could easily get themselves thrown out,if they really wanted to.The reality is that no member would want to!
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Nah. We all want to leave. You watch, in 3 years time there’ll only be Malta and Portugal left.
Boohoo
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If you think that the ever closer union has gone as far as it ever will, it's time you started listening to Mr Verhofstadt. Unlike some others in the EU he says it as it is and makes no attempt to hide the truth about the future European Empire.
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The full text is "determined to lay the foundations of an ever closer union of the peoples of Europe,not governments,with a desire to promote trust and understanding among peoples living in open and understanding societies". A useful reference is fullfact.org europe. Like i said,it was written in 1957,and has largely achieved its aim.Peace and relative prosperity.
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Indeed; and peace and prosperity is all we ever wanted- goal achieved. So why push further, to the point of alienating member states? That is the issue; well for me anyway.
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