Never seem to hear much about the sumo dts drill.one of the big 3 cultivation machinery has one in stock priced to clear.makes me wonder a bit.
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New or second hand?Never seem to hear much about the sumo dts drill.one of the big 3 cultivation machinery has one in stock priced to clear.makes me wonder a bit.
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We have been pulling our 4m dts with a case puma 175 as the bigger puma 230 has been pulling the sky drill. It coped really well and I would like to think that’s down to the soil being in great shape after a few years of DD.Can't see why you need so much power for a Claydon, we pull a 4m DTS with 210hp quite happily. 485hp on the 9m
There's some good info on the Sumo website. A 3m has 9 'rows', each with a ripper leg that could be in 9 inches deep, potentially a 6 inch wide coulter that can be between 1 inch and 4 inches deep, a pair of covering discs and a pair of press wheels behind, into unmoved stubble that can take some pulling, I believe a 4m has 12 'rows'. Yes they can be run shallow and take less pulling, but they aren't called a 'Deep Tillage Seeder' for nothing.Why do the 4m dts take so much pulling.not a great deal in the ground.dont know how many legs but they only look very narrow and surely only run very shallow.in my opinion anyway.ive got very little idea if I’m honest
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Can't see why you need so much power for a Claydon, we pull a 4m DTS with 210hp quite happily. 485hp on the 9m
You are on some pretty steep gear aswell i think?Can't see why you need so much power for a Claydon, we pull a 4m DTS with 210hp quite happily. 485hp on the 9m
Wery interesting experience. As I am running 4mdts now 5. Season, we are on shalowest tillage leg pins position. I dont try to take off this leg as was afraid about Stones. How good seed coulter goes without tillage leg on some stony conditions? Do You have some pictures how it affect soil disturbance etc please? ?We run a 4m and 9m DTS, will drill in nearly any conditions. If the covering wheels block up, take them off, if the front tine blocks up, take it off or stay in the shed. We have done both these things with good success to extend the drilling window/contracting drilling in less than ideal conditions. Trash isn't a problem, if it is really tall (0.5m +) drill headlands first before turning on it. Chopped straw sometimes needs drilling at an angle. Never leave unbaled straw in a field as the drill will collect it up very effectively. Maximum depth we have ever run the leading tine is 9 inches. That was in the early days. Now rarely below 5, even for OSR. Soils have improved immeasurably, mostly with the drill enabling much less or no cultivation. We have also used the drills to loosen OSR stubbles in August and then drilled them in October without the leading tine (Much faster and less draft/weight required + more area covered) Have had excellent results with APM legs too. Now starting with an 8m Horsch Avatar plus the DTS's. Still covering around 8600ac with contracting and cover crop drilling.
As above.thinking I’m going to have to take steps to save multiple passes.waiting to hear from weaving,Mzuri,sumo and the Spanish vikmar I think it is to look at machines at work.hoping to look at Claydon too.anyone local to me running any of the above who woukd not mind me coming to look and ask questions.any advantages of one system over the other.strip or no till
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I’m just after opinions and not seen any machines working due to weather and conditions.ive got some stiffish land here that shines when ploughed in July August and I’m not sure no till woukd work and agronomist says a disc drill is not going to work on that soil.as mentioned I looked at a Simtech which I liked and hope to see a few more next week if I get to croptecI’d just take a step back before jumping. Strip Till can add as many issues as it takes away in my experience. Irrelevant of the make of drill think about slugs, added weed burden, increased reliance on herbicides and glyphosate. They all move to much soil which in turn grows weeds at the same time you plant the seed.
If your wanting to reduce costs you should just concentrate on a no-till system.
As your heading into DD from a plough/maxitill position I'd definitely go for the simtech as a starting point, it'll be a lot more forgiving than a disc.I’m just after opinions and not seen any machines working due to weather and conditions.ive got some stiffish land here that shines when ploughed in July August and I’m not sure no till woukd work and agronomist says a disc drill is not going to work on that soil.as mentioned I looked at a Simtech which I liked and hope to see a few more next week if I get to croptec
Nick...
Can't see why you need so much power for a Claydon, we pull a 4m DTS with 210hp quite happily. 485hp on the 9m