Getting concerned

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
A food shortage would let the public know what we up against but it will never happen.already read somewhere today about massive rape shortage next year and having to import it,even though it’s had the seed dressing that’s been banned here.all rules then out of the window then.as long as the public get cheap food they don’t care where it comes from or how it’s produced
Nick...

Don't worry - Chris Packham et al will be dockside stopping all the neonic seed being delivered to old Blighty....

...oh sorry, my mistake.
 
I think if we all need to start drilling wheat to have it mostly in in sept the job is totally knackered
For as long as I've been growing cereals it's been long accepted that in our part of Warwickshure we need to be finishing planting by the 7th Oct , so therefore to get done I need to be starting around the 22nd seot , I accept due to BG we have to hold back and that brings the risk of less being planted but FFS ?
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Ironically, for the people that "sow in late October to avoid Black Grass", BG is the *only* well established 'crop' they've got growing right now.
Yes very true but I would rather have that than a crop that has to be sprayed off in May because the bg has taken over!It has taken a long time and a lot of money to repair the damage done by early drilling just going back to it is not an option imho
 

Flintstone

Member
Location
Berkshire
Drilled 7th Oct during the second dry spell.

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Flintstone

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Location
Berkshire
Sorry, I disagree. The rainfall started on 23rd September and after that wet spell there was a decent spell where drilling could have happened, but most people were still ‘holding off for BG’. The weather was certainly catchy, but there was also certainly a 17 day spell of weather where many people who could have drilled, didn’t. I’m not saying everyone could have, but many on less clay soils could have made some good progress.
Just saying.
 
Sorry, I disagree. The rainfall started on 23rd September and after that wet spell there was a decent spell where drilling could have happened, but most people were still ‘holding off for BG’. The weather was certainly catchy, but there was also certainly a 17 day spell of weather where many people who could have drilled, didn’t. I’m not saying everyone could have, but many on less clay soils could have made some good progress.
Just saying.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Sorry, I disagree. The rainfall started on 23rd September and after that wet spell there was a decent spell where drilling could have happened, but most people were still ‘holding off for BG’. The weather was certainly catchy, but there was also certainly a 17 day spell of weather where many people who could have drilled, didn’t. I’m not saying everyone could have, but many on less clay soils could have made some good progress.
Just saying.

Not here. There were two dry days together, but given the rainfall just before only one local drilled any clay. It doesn't look pretty now.

Personally, if anyone had said there would be zero drilling days for me in October I wouldn't have believed them. I'd expect seven, three in November, and one in December. So still time but I'm not overly hopeful.
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
certainly a 17 day spell of weather where many people who could have drilled, didn’t.

Was that the very same 17 day spell where many people who, just like us, shouldn't have drilled, did?

:D:D:D:D:D

Edit :- it's years like this, with so much patching up to do, when one sincerely wishes that the PB Royalty was all per acre and not per tonne.
 
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lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Sorry, I disagree. The rainfall started on 23rd September and after that wet spell there was a decent spell where drilling could have happened, but most people were still ‘holding off for BG’. The weather was certainly catchy, but there was also certainly a 17 day spell of weather where many people who could have drilled, didn’t. I’m not saying everyone could have, but many on less clay soils could have made some good progress.
Just saying.


Many parts of the country have had relentless rainfall.
Your crops look well and you were right to push on but the
pictures you show are of soils with high stone content (naturally free draining).
Perhaps your getting the luck this year after your bad luck with the OSR last year.
 

Flintstone

Member
Location
Berkshire
Many parts of the country have had relentless rainfall.
Your crops look well and you were right to push on but the
pictures you show are of soils with high stone content (naturally free draining).
Perhaps your getting the luck this year after your bad luck with the OSR last year.

Sorry @lloyd butvi kind of disagree. There are heaps of previous posts here where people have said they’re going to hold off for BG chitting. There were indeed days where people could have drilled in early October too, and they chose not to.

I’m not criticising anyone, I’m just saying that the last there autumns certainly instilled a sense of confidence that all will be ok by waiting. Sadly, the dry spell never came. But, and I stand by this, if time could be rewound back to the end of September, there would be at least 50% more cereals in the ground than there are today of people realised what had been coming.

Everyone keeps referring to how easy and free draining the soil is here. It’s not. The last proper wet spell in 2000 we couldn’t drill anything until January, like everyone else. Many farmers in these parts are only 20% drilled up

it’s the fact nothing has been cultivated for years as to why it’s all gone ok this year. I’m amazed people aren’t realising that their soils can’t continually be thrashed to bits with 1990’s tracked and weighty technology and still offer them structure and flexibility

I can assure you that my non cropped areas are very wet indeed, as seen here today.


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bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
Just saying.

Funnily enough, Flintstone, I found myself in exactly the same position as you are now, 40 odd years ago, in November 1976, having got in some 2-300 Hectares straight in on the stubble with an Australian I-H 6/2 just at the time when nobody else within 50 miles of here had been able to turn a wheel for the previous six or seven weeks..

Needless to say, I wasn't particularly popular.

:angelic::angelic::angelic:
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
Sorry @lloyd butvi kind of disagree. There are heaps of previous posts here where people have said they’re going to hold off for BG chitting. There were indeed days where people could have drilled in early October too, and they chose not to.

I’m not criticising anyone, I’m just saying that the last there autumns certainly instilled a sense of confidence that all will be ok by waiting. Sadly, the dry spell never came. But, and I stand by this, if time could be rewound back to the end of September, there would be at least 50% more cereals in the ground than there are today of people realised what had been coming.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if i had known summer 2018 was going to be so good i would have put a load more wheat in the ground in 17 and then cashed in a bunch more at £194 a tonne.

But this autumn has never let up and we are very close to 50% of our average annual rainfall in 7 weeks, knowing what its done i am not sure i could or would have changed a thing
 

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