Meat: a threat to our planet.

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
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Cornwall
Any UK Organisation that are supposed to support UK Agriculture will do,
can't see there's anything to complain about in what she's saying as I wouldn't buy meat from any of the places she visited other than Wales.
We do need to reduce the amount of Soya going into animal feed other than if it's a by product of what's for human consumption, because that's really the only thing negative she/ anti livestock groups can throw at UK production.
 

andyt87

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Livestock Farmer
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Glamorgan
After watching this, I can only assume they didn't visit British beef and sheep farms. If they had, it would have been white meat that I'd have been reducing consumption of based on the places we saw. I'm glad I can't stand corned beef though, think that's the only non UK beef that has snuck into our groceries

Oh, and obviously blood fish and bone meal is never used for plants ?

I do feel that they picked the US Cattlemans Assoc. scientist on purpose though. Whilst she may have stood up for the industry it was not done through facts, more ignoring any problem for now. That won't go down well with general viewership
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
Well, not as bad as I'd feared.
I'd first ask her why she doesn't gen up on the methane cycle, before swallowing the myth, but I don't spose the dear thing would hear my voice.

I don't disagree with a lot of her objection to some topics covered, there are many aspects of our (global) industry which need addressing.
And at least she concluded that viewers should choose where they buy from more carefully....perhaps it'll send more to my door.

Overall though? Misinformed hypocrite, making a living from perpetuating half truths.
You've got to love someone with the brass neck to fly around the world, burning fuel that lay in the ground for 300 million years, to whinge about methane that's grabbed again in a decade or so.

The overwhelming problem, and the elephant in her room, is people. Too many people
 
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southwest
would love to know the carbon footprint of this program is!
we’ve hit 4 continents so far!

But noticeably not Europe until the Welsh good lifers.

So what did we learn tonight? Americans eat (and will continue to) a lot of meat, a lot of pigs will produce a lot of pigshyte, It's not really a good idea to burn lots of woodland so you can get into extensive ranching, intensive arable farming reduces biodiversity, you can grow meat substitute in a lab but they won't tell you how or what effect it may have on the environment.

But what were we not told?

That European meat production is far better for the environment that American and South American production methods. Animal waste is literally part of the life cycle of food production. Intensive production of crops for human rather than animal feed will have a similar impact on biodiversity and that industrialised food production may not solve anything. Oh, and that if a guy in Wales hits a chicken over the head with a lump of 4 x 2, that's a perfectly acceptable way of slaughter-so it won't be long before Waitrose and M&S start selling authentic "wood stunned, high welfare chicken.

Can't wait to see that guy "stun" a 600kg Lim steer with a length of scaffold plank

As I type this, the news is reporting on the case of a man allowed to starve and die of thirst in a UK hospital, when he complained, staff said he was a "troublemaker"

Yeah, there's a lot wrong in this world, but eating a beefburger isn't a major problem
 

bactosoil

Member
while we can all see inaccuracy's in the program and the complete lack of championing all the good things in the UK meat industry
we must also remember Uk farmers perceptions are irrelevant , right now millions of people sitting in their homes in the UK
will be thinking how bad eating meat is and how terrible UK farmers are , its another bucket full of nails in the UK farming coffins lid
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
But noticeably not Europe until the Welsh good lifers.

So what did we learn tonight? Americans eat (and will continue to) a lot of meat, a lot of pigs will produce a lot of pigshyte, It's not really a good idea to burn lots of woodland so you can get into extensive ranching, intensive arable farming reduces biodiversity, you can grow meat substitute in a lab but they won't tell you how or what effect it may have on the environment.

But what were we not told?

That European meat production is far better for the environment that American and South American production methods. Animal waste is literally part of the life cycle of food production. Intensive production of crops for human rather than animal feed will have a similar impact on biodiversity and that industrialised food production may not solve anything. Oh, and that if a guy in Wales hits a chicken over the head with a lump of 4 x 2, that's a perfectly acceptable way of slaughter-so it won't be long before Waitrose and M&S start selling authentic "wood stunned, high welfare chicken.

Can't wait to see that guy "stun" a 600kg Lim steer with a length of scaffold plank

As I type this, the news is reporting on the case of a man allowed to starve and die of thirst in a UK hospital, when he complained, staff said he was a "troublemaker"

Yeah, there's a lot wrong in this world, but eating a beefburger isn't a major problem
I seen that news report does put everything into context, really feel for the family, had me crying when his dad was talking.
 
We are just ordinary people who try to eat local and UK produced food wherever possible. We are back garden "hobby farmers" who are delighted when our spuds are bigger than a golf ball, and our 3 hens lay more than 1 egg a day! We really appreciate our farmers in the uk. This dismissal of meat recently seems really weird to us. We don't believe this media crap and will continue to eat our bacon butties (with real buttered toast) our Sunday dinner with lamb or chicken, shepherd's pie with beef mince and all the local fruit and veg that we can get our mitts on!
Only logged on to say that! Kind regards all from us! :)
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
We are just ordinary people who try to eat local and UK produced food wherever possible. We are back garden "hobby farmers" who are delighted when our spuds are bigger than a golf ball, and our 3 hens lay more than 1 egg a day! We really appreciate our farmers in the uk. This dismissal of meat recently seems really weird to us. We don't believe this media crap and will continue to eat our bacon butties (with real buttered toast) our Sunday dinner with lamb or chicken, shepherd's pie with beef mince and all the local fruit and veg that we can get our mitts on!
Only logged on to say that! Kind regards all from us! :)
Brilliant, thank you for your support (y)
 

Muddyroads

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Exeter, Devon
We are just ordinary people who try to eat local and UK produced food wherever possible. We are back garden "hobby farmers" who are delighted when our spuds are bigger than a golf ball, and our 3 hens lay more than 1 egg a day! We really appreciate our farmers in the uk. This dismissal of meat recently seems really weird to us. We don't believe this media crap and will continue to eat our bacon butties (with real buttered toast) our Sunday dinner with lamb or chicken, shepherd's pie with beef mince and all the local fruit and veg that we can get our mitts on!
Only logged on to say that! Kind regards all from us! :)
Welcome! ?
 

haybob

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Livestock Farmer
Good to see the program round off with a small holder In touch with his food. was a sad thing to see the deforestation but it’s a practice that has gone on thousands of years including in this country. It’s going to be a difficult balance to get sorted out
 

kill

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Livestock Farmer
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South West
Whilst it was irritating to watch as it was so one sided, and of course made no mention of the environmental impact on growing monoculture plant based food as an alternative, it could be used as as a perfect platform to promote the benefits of local, extensively produced meat. The chances of that happening? Probably zero.
Probably the lab meat is feed on raw sewage as they couldn't show how it's feed
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
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South Wales UK
Good to see the program round off with a small holder In touch with his food. was a sad thing to see the deforestation but it’s a practice that has gone on thousands of years including in this country. It’s going to be a difficult balance to get sorted out
50 layers down to 49 ?
Not even a meat bird and young red comb laying hen with next to no meat on her?
Daft.
 

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