Meat: a threat to our planet.

Top Tip.

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Location
highland
I think it's important that farmers remind themselves that there is support for what they do. Frankly, this is a bloody depressing industry right now as the high suicide rates concur - If things don't change the big problem the human race will face is a lack of people that want to be involved in producing food at all !!!

The constant "bullying" of farmers by media and agenda groups surely can not be legal? imagine the outcry if we had weekly documentaries about high crime rates amongst black people? or how disabled people burden the NHS etc? no way that would be acceptable


The BBC need to understand they are bankrupting families and in worst case responsible for suicides through this bulling

I'm not saying that UK ag doesn't have some work to do cleaning up its act (along with just about every other industry) but the way this is being gone about right now is wrong and the victims are real people
Totally agree @Clive and I highlighted this suicide risk in my complaint to the BBC last night .I would urge anyone who hasn’t done so to get onto the complaints department of the BBC and let them know your feelings because unless they are told they will continue to produce this left wing vegan propaganda.
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Totally agree @Clive and I highlighted this suicide risk in my complaint to the BBC last night .I would urge anyone who hasn’t done so to get onto the complaints department of the BBC and let them know your feelings because unless they are told they will continue to produce this left wing vegan propaganda.

For all those who are feeling the stress
FCN has a helpline open from 7am to 11pm. Or email [email protected]

As a person said to me the other day

"I didn't really know what was wrong with me, and I had no idea that others suffered as well. The FCN is an amazing organisation I hope one day I am feeling well enough to volunteer."

Please anyone pick up the phone or email
 

DaveGrohl

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Now I've had a few hours to digest what was really a bad piece of TV, I'm struck by just how dopey the whole thing was. The bit about the insect traps was pathetic. Look how there's lots of insects in this forest then look how many insects there are in this field of maize, maize that will go for animal feed. What about the maize that goes for human feed Liz?!? Same bl00dy thing!! It was littered with dopey moments such as that. I was left wondering if she actually knew what point she was trying to make by the end of it, rather than just cobbled together some clips because she'd spent so much time making it.

Oh and here's all the info you need Liz from the absolute goldmine that is the Rogan/Kresser podcast:

If all animal production was ended overnight all over the globe the grand total of greenhouse gas emissions would be..........
2.6%

Just have a little think about that Liz.
And that's before you start to factor in exactly how damaging having to massively increase vegan production would be to all sorts of areas from emissions to biodiversity to soil erosion and depletion etc,etc,etc.
Whoops, sorry to quote myself but I've missed out a couple of words obvs:
If all animal production was ended overnight all over the globe the grand total of the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions would be..........
2.6%
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
So why the hell didn't they show that bit of footage last night?

Because it doesn't suit their agenda,
even Liz Bonnin begrudgingly has to admit that grass fed animals are okay and grassland sequesters carbon in that clip but it does not suit the beebs top brass I'm guessing
"BBC forced to make second Panorama style investigation report after serious failings in balanced journalism exposed by NFU spokesperson. In the second film several mis-edited clips were introduced and the AHDB were found wanting in actually highlighting areas of production measurement and evaluation "






And then I woke up
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
I've read about stomas to the rumen, but hadn't seen one. Fascinating.
Use to be a cow on a farm around here years ago that kept blowing and the vet left a hole like that in to one of the stomachs to stop it happening.
You had to watch when mucking the cowshed out and if close to her, that now and then it would squirt you if you were'nt watching!
 

Victor

Member
Location
Devon
I have an idea
could we do a documentary on the news media and go to a country run by a controlling dictatorship to do it
We then could headline the program "News media needs to be banned"
because news is possibly supressed and bias and facts are covered up
If its like it there it must be everywhere
What you think?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
So why the hell didn't they show that bit of footage last night?

Because it doesn't suit their agenda,
even Liz Bonnin begrudgingly has to admit that grass fed animals are okay and grassland sequesters carbon in that clip but it does not suit the beebs top brass I'm guessing

It’s much bigger than BBC’s own agenda -

my guess is if you follow the money far enough oil and gas is behind this attack on agriculture which has clearly been singled out as an easy target to distract attention from the real story re GHG’s

Until Uk Ag gets some decent fit fir purpose representation we will always be a soft target
 
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johnspeehs

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Location
Co Antrim
Sorry if this is a stupid question or has already been asked but if the program was brought to the bbc to be aired would it not be an idea to see who asked them to air it or who commissioned it? We know who the production company are so surely thats a starting point. Maybe thats not how it works, im not much into tv really
 

delilah

Member

From that:
The National Farmers' Union also weighed in. Fran Barnes, the head of communications at the NFU, said: “Meat A Threat To Our Planet is showing farming about as far removed from British beef production as it is possible to be.

The NFU have a head of communications ? Every day a school day.
Rather than slagging off the BBC after the event, their time and effort would be far, far better spent doing what a communications department should do:
Building relationships with journalists, sowing seeds for story ideas, putting farmers forward who can string a sentence together, etc.
You know, like the environmental organisations so despised by the NFU do. On a tiny fraction of the NFU's budget.
So long as the NFU see every one - the BBC, the environmental movement - as the enemy, they will achieve sod all on behalf of the industry.

And while I am at it: moaning about the effect of the programme on farmers mental health - people who are only seen by the public as having the mental stress of deciding what to spend the subsidy money on - is a complete and utter waste of time, however real the problem may be.
We - the industry - should deal with such issues in house (which we do very well) not air it in public. It achieves nothing.
 

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