No money at all for the buyers on todays trade, most store cattle were making the value of what they will be worth in 3 months time unless the prime goes up 15/20 pence a kilo.
Was one hell of a store cattle trade!
BPS in the account effect....
No money at all for the buyers on todays trade, most store cattle were making the value of what they will be worth in 3 months time unless the prime goes up 15/20 pence a kilo.
Was one hell of a store cattle trade!
I would agree some people get carried away and leave them self no margin but also how the hell can a store lambs vendor survive if he sold all of his lambs for under £60...
horses for courses, some turn them round in a month and pay 65-80, others a couple of months and work to a bit less and others Lee them for 5 months!
if your market isnt making more than £60 for any well bred stores then I’m surprised there still surviving...
They’d be heavier then that I hope ???Friend of mine had £110 for a pen of 60 last week in the store ring they went into Yorkshire for the spring trade weighing about 35 kg ,very good lambs but some trade.
How many markets run a store and fat sale on the same day?
Exeter and Sedgemore are split days though Holsworthy is both on the same day.
Not been but think Cutcombe and South Molton are both on the same day.
Is it better to have both on same day or dedicated markets for both?
Do those that run both on the same day weigh all lambs?
A couple of good Limm bulls sold well, £2500 or so but no more than they were worth. A couple of young Herefords £1880/£1500 , Angus £850(worth that to kill), Charolais were okay, can't remember what he made. Probably not the best time of year to sell a bull, so nothing too tearing.did you or anyone else see the bulls sold ? if so what were they like and what did they sell like ?
Was the AA bull registered and so able to get 'named sire' calves?A couple of good Limm bulls sold well, £2500 or so but no more than they were worth. A couple of young Herefords £1880/£1500 , Angus £850(worth that to kill), Charolais were okay, can't remember what he made. Probably not the best time of year to sell a bull, so nothing too tearing.
I take lambs most weeks... if they’re making over £60 either the buyer has lost the bloody plot or they’re sending them to kill!
No money at all to be made from stores over £60 by the time you transport them back home, dip them for scab, they infect your breeding flock with scab so you have to then dip them also, a few die, your time to go check them every couple days, you invest in electric fencing kit, you plant stubble turnips, pay for winter keep, spend half your life electric fencing, a few energisers get pinched, your quad breaks down/needs a tank of fuel daily, you pen them up every Sunday to draft out the fit ones, your dog drops down dead, you have to put a creep feeder in and fill it up every other day because they’re not growing fast enough ...all that to take them back to market in spring and get £100 a life for them? Or even more comical £60 again for them because the price has gone tits up....
I stand by it anybody spending over £60 on “stores” ain’t actually taking them home as stores or they’re brain dead...
100%...p!ssing about breeding them for £60I guarantee you there’s more money in buying a store at £60 than there is in producing a store at £60.
Sold them for that??? How long you going to have to keep them
Cant you choose your market for the store or fat? I couldnt be doing with someone else telling me if my lambs are store or fat.Our market doesn’t just let people wang lambs in the stores they grade them off the trailer if there fit for killing they go straight into the fat ring, if they’re not they go into the stores, the few of mine that have went into the store ring generally fetch £55-60 a life ... I wouldn’t say I’m negative I’m just realistic a lot of these store buyers are running them in to kill and a lot of them are also just buying lambs blindly because they told themselves they were gonna run 3000 store lambs this year and that’s that they’ve not done the maths on what it’ll cost them and what price they need to buy them for to turn a profit on worse case scenario prices in spring... the same people will be complaining they’re not getting over 200ppk for them in the spring because they’ve spent too much money buying them ...beef jobs knackered so everybody’s throwing there money at the sheep job now too try and knacker that too ??
Hopefully she will have two .thats £120 gross output. Better than suckler cows at the moment that’s for sureIf I could buy lambs all the time for £60, I’d do that over breeding them. I only have to keep them a month or two depending on system and I’ve hopefully collected profit out of them. Bugger keeping a ewe all year, lambing her etc for £60 or less.
Carlisle run both on mondays.There are no "fat" ones in the stores there,because they would be bought and then just run straight around in t other ring for the fat.How many markets run a store and fat sale on the same day?
Exeter and Sedgemore are split days though Holsworthy is both on the same day.
Not been but think Cutcombe and South Molton are both on the same day.
Is it better to have both on same day or dedicated markets for both?
Do those that run both on the same day weigh all lambs?
Nope that was what they weighed .They’d be heavier then that I hope ???
Cant you choose your market for the store or fat? I couldnt be doing with someone else telling me if my lambs are store or fat.
Hopefully she will have two .thats £120 gross output. Better than suckler cows at the moment that’s for sure