Will they get the job done

holwellcourtfarm

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It was a leftie government that created the NHS, can't imagine an overwhelming majority voting to abolish it.
And it was Blair/Brown who introduced the new doctors contract and the patient's charter, the origin of the mess that the NHS is in today. Ask any GP over 40 and they'll tell you it is the Charter and the constant churning targets from the DOH (again, started with Blair/Brown) that drives them out, not lack of pay.

The NHS could easily be fantastic on the money it gets today if it were run on CLINICAL NEED not political expediency.
 
Easily said when your career will carry on regardless o.

There is no guarantee I will have any career: I haven't even begun training yet nor is there any guarantee of a job if it is completed.

I am not sure what exact result you wanted from the election?

Agriculture is going to change in the next 10+ years, as it already has in the previous 20. EU or no EU, it will face external challenges as it always has.

I do not understand the cheap imports angle at all- the UK already has access to cheaper product from abroad, in particular Brazilian poultry and Danish bacon- both surely reared under standards differing to our own. The UK can easily import beef from Namibia or Botswana- I've seen it myself. Dirt cheap even after whatever punitive tariff the EU tries to impose. Yet the major retailers don't want to know, and who can blame them given the history of food scares?

About the only thing you need to concern yourself with is the cheap stuff being sold in Wetherspoons masquerading as 'food'.
 
ive ponderd this alot, i think globally its all going to change, and the eu will change, we make have hard times ahead but i genuinely see the eu failing when i look at the debt some of the countries are carrying its staggering.


i hope for our sake getting out now gives us a head start!

the vote percent vs seats is amazing,

lib dem 3.6 mil votes 11 seats
SNP 1.2 mil votes 48 seats
LAB 10mil votes 203 seats

snp done well there make poor lib dem look shafted!

Which is why regional parties should have no place in English politics nor English in Scottish or vice versa.. They should have separate elections for these regions and separate parties in them. They have their own governments, therein ends our involvement.
 
Actually I'd suggest that ours and every other major economy needs to contract, not move forward. Anything else is simply feeding the climate and ecological crisis.

There is a well documented straight line correlation between GDP and energy use. We cannot cut our emissions without cutting our energy use. That means shrinking the economy: decimate food wastage, insulate ALL our housing stock to cut our heating energy use by 75%+, cut our travelling etc, etc.

Enact a proper environment act and regulator able to ensure that the true environmental cost is paid at the point of use for everything we do (so we actually pay for the Chinese emissions and resource use involved in our cheap imported goods). Rebuild our soil health, ecological diversity and water cycle efficiency.

Ditch GDP as a measure of progress in favour of resource efficiency and ecological impact.

I think that's probably a bit much even for Boris to achieve but such fundamental change would need a large majority to implement and we, the public, will never vote for the pain involved. We will just keep putting it off until our world collapses round our ears.

The EU just came out and claimed they will be carbon neutral by 2050.

They will of course either be knobbling their quality of life, their competitiveness or be merely exporting the problem or using 'carbon credits' if they do this.

We need to make the poorest 20% of the world a heck of a lot richer and give them access to cheap energy as well. Do that and their birth rates will decline, their populations will plateau and more importantly they won't be so reliant on doing daft things to earn a shilling.

The ONLY way is global trade so that all can prosper. Energy use in most of the Western world is declining over time due to improved technology and efficiency gains anyway. We need to access more advanced renewable technologies or seriously poke investment into nuclear power and we will be two-thirds of the way there.

A fat Westerner can buy a more fuel efficient SUV all he likes and claim he is saving the world but my concern is for the millions of people world wide who don't even have access to a tenth of what we do in the West.
 

GeorgeK

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And it was Blair/Brown who introduced the new doctors contract and the patient's charter, the origin of the mess that the NHS is in today. Ask any GP over 40 and they'll tell you it is the Charter and the constant churning targets from the DOH (again, started with Blair/Brown) that drives them out, not lack of pay.

The NHS could easily be fantastic on the money it gets today if it were run on CLINICAL NEED not political expediency.
I hope the new environmental schemes don't go down this path - constantly changing, meaningless targets and a budget that can at best be described as 'optimistic'. How many trees???
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 77 43.0%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 62 34.6%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.8%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 4 2.2%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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