glasshouse
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Boris will have the perfect excuse to flood the uk with american wheat in 2020 with only 30% sown in england
An American trade deal? What will the effect be on British farming?
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livestock 1
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Brexit isn’t going to go away so let’s get it over with I’m sure everyone is bored with it now
glasshouse
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- lothians
Boris voted against mays deal to prolong brexit to the point that even hardened labour geordies would vote tory to get brexit finished
RushesToo
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- Fingringhoe
I don't have any children either. Looking good.
Roger Perry
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Yes, he will stick up for the U.S. farmer, any American business, that is why he was elected.
At the same time he wants a deal with the U.K.........with Boris.
If it can be done in a fair and equitable way then everyone wins, hopefully Boris will stand up for Britain in similar fashion......President Trump will respect him for that.
livestock 1
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I have 3
livestock 1
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You are missing the point. This faffing around is costing us a fortune. Can you not see that? Are you wanting to reverse the decision? That’s not going to happen now
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Are we sure American farmers cost of production is lower than the UK?
They don't look to be having an overly good time of things at the moment and seem to need a lot more acres to make a living.
They don't look to be having an overly good time of things at the moment and seem to need a lot more acres to make a living.
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- East Sussex
This is an interesting point and while scale and cheaper inputs make cereals more competitive, the livestock sector as a whole must be trading at close to world price (whatever that is!).
If as looks likely that grain prices rise significantly then the grass fed livestock sector will do very well again.
Low grain prices and cheap oil have undermined our red meat sector but it will not continue with poorer harvests throughout the world and grain reserves falling.
There will also I believe be a reappraisal of Soya with great pressure being applied to prevent the Rain forests from being cut down and hopefully a revival in homegrown peas and beans.
livestock 1
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They can sell beef at lower prices than us by the look of things
Interesting question - how much cheaper is a kilo of meat, cheese, butter in the USA compared
to the Uk. A few months ago, unlacedgecko posted an article about beef feedlots in the mid-west,
and it mentioned there the current price they were getting on the hook, from what i remember
it was similar to ours. Would there be enough margin, taking into account currency fluctuations,
and transport costs to make it worth their while. I know that a lot of Usa and Canadian meat
goes to Asia, and i think that would be a more profit/wider market for them.
R J
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- Herefordshire
Was reading in the farmers weekly yesterday about US mega dairy farm and it stated the get the equivalent of 28p per kilo for milk so not dissimilar to ours ?
livestock 1
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What’s worth thinking about is that currently our beef price is low and currently theirs is high so when things settle the gap will appear bigger
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
Arms and cars.
I would imagine any well run grazing dairy unit here would run rings around a high input dairy in US.
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- Scottish Highlands
Eurofighter and TVR? Suspect that we may have a struggle to make the next generation of the former once we are out of the club, and the latter is hardly going to make any change to our balance of trade.
I was thinking whisky and shortbread.
livestock 1
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I doubt it unfortunately
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
aren’t US sold Landrovers still made here?
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- Scottish Highlands
Could be, but the numbers aren't huge, last time I checked.
Current import tariff on cars from EU to USA is 2.5%, vs. 10% for cars going the other way, which doesn't leave much positive room for manoeuvre in any negotiations anyway. I wouldn't be counting on things getting better for UK motor manufacturers.