Farm Road Repairs

Woolless · Dec 10, 2019

Our farm road is in need of some TLC, it's gone downhill quick with potholes in the last couple of months and I'm getting it in the neck from my other half! I would love to get it tarmacked (it is only about 250 yards) but at the moment some running repairs are the order of the day. Previously repaired with type 1 banged in with a fence post, but unsurprisingly that doesn't last long. So:

-What type of aggregate is best for repairing potholes?

-What would be best to use for compacting the aggregate in to the holes? Whacker? Roller?

TIA

Hotbed · Dec 10, 2019

Repairing pot holes doesn’t last, you’ll need a 5 ton digger with big tooth bucket and dig the whole track up to a depth of at least 6 inches then put on a layer of road planings and level, roll with a Mid sized double drum vibrating roller.

Tha Ulsterscot · Dec 10, 2019

Get the water off with a side slope and fill the holes with Blinding, then spread a thin layer of 3/4 " 20 mm over the whole thing '

Woolless · Dec 10, 2019

Hmm, thank you @Tha Ulsterscot and @Hotbed. Both those options are well outwith my limited capabilities with machinery. Any idea of price for full job plus materials on a 250m road?

Bobthebuilder · Dec 10, 2019

what is it made of atm? if you know anyone doing the wagon work on roadworks you can sometimes get a load of tarmac if they have ordered too much or something goes wrong and they need to get rid of sharpish, only problem is it can be the middle of the night when it comes, failing that some 25mm to dust mixed with some cement powder and whacked in with vibrating plate into a clean hole

Woolless · Dec 10, 2019

Bobthebuilder said:
what is it made of atm? if you know anyone doing the wagon work on roadworks you can sometimes get a load of tarmac if they have ordered too much or something goes wrong and they need to get rid of sharpish, only problem is it can be the middle of the night when it comes, failing that some 25mm to dust mixed with some cement powder and whacked in with vibrating plate into a clean hole

From what I've heard, tarmac is so expensive now that those types of loads are now a rare occurrence and it's a firing offence for the driver if an 'unofficial' delivery is rumbled.

The road is rougher grade stuff below (exposed in potholes now) with much finer stuff on top. Can't be more specific than that, I'm afraid. It's not my sphere of expertise! Mixing some cement powder in sounds like it might be a better job. 25mm to dust is a grade of aggregate, presumably?

Bobthebuilder · Dec 10, 2019

Woolless said:
From what I've heard, tarmac is so expensive now that those types of loads are now a rare occurrence and it's a firing offence for the driver if an 'unofficial' delivery is rumbled.

The road is rougher grade stuff below (exposed in potholes now) with much finer stuff on top. Can't be more specific than that, I'm afraid. It's not my sphere of expertise! Mixing some cement powder in sounds like it might be a better job. 25mm to dust is a grade of aggregate, presumably?

yes 25mm chippings not riddled

Woolless · Dec 10, 2019

Bobthebuilder said:
yes 25mm chippings not riddled

Is that similar to type 1?

farmerm · Dec 10, 2019

Bobthebuilder said:
what is it made of atm? if you know anyone doing the wagon work on roadworks you can sometimes get a load of tarmac if they have ordered too much or something goes wrong and they need to get rid of sharpish, only problem is it can be the middle of the night when it comes, failing that some 25mm to dust mixed with some cement powder and whacked in with vibrating plate into a clean hole

I think those days of genuine tarmac over orders are gone aren't they? From what I have seen recently most outfits appear to mix as required on the laying machine these days, what is not laid isn't mixed, it wont go off and can be used the next day.

Hfd Cattle · Dec 11, 2019

farmerm said:
I think those days of genuine tarmac over orders are gone aren't they? From what I have seen recently most outfits appear to mix as required on the laying machine these days, what is not laid isn't mixed, it wont go off and can be used the next day.

Yes ...was waiting for some loads to come our way but after speaking to the haulier he said they have changed the way they supply it now and there is no waste or spare. We gave 3 quarters of a mile to do and the lane is getting real bad . Have tried all sorts of things but it doesn't last long .

Bobthebuilder · Dec 11, 2019

Woolless said:
Is that similar to type 1?

Type 1 will be bigger, probably 50mm to dust

Woolless · Dec 11, 2019

Bobthebuilder said:
Type 1 will be bigger, probably 50mm to dust

Ah, OK. Sounds like that will do a better job. I might get the bloke that does my groundwork jobs to come and have a look at doing a better job as suggested above and go down the route of your suggestion if that's a no go. Thanks.

Hasbeennoall · Dec 15, 2019

Concrete the best ,do a bit every year when funds available,I've still 600 yds to do in past did 5 loads after silage cut , save a fortune in punctures with concrete stones push through hot trailer wheels but we got robbed as light fingered don't like rough farm tracks as much!

Smith31 · Dec 15, 2019

If your looking for a simple cheap repair then speak to your local skip firm they will separate all the hardcore, bricks etc from their skips. This then gets crushed and sold we paid £8 a ton for 300 tons a few months back.

Just take your trailer to them and they will fill it up for you with a ton or two if you don't need a full 20 ton load delivered. This would be your cheapest option and alot cheaper then buying bulk bags of mot.

Simon_newport · Dec 19, 2019

Concrete all the way. If laid correctly will last many more years then tarmac.
https://www.speedcrete.co.uk/

dannewhouse · Dec 21, 2019

How much are these cement stabilization jobs?
Where they bring up say 6" of existing material and mix cement with it?

Grass And Grain · Dec 21, 2019

dannewhouse said:
How much are these cement stabilization jobs?
Where they bring up say 6" of existing material and mix cement with it?

I suppose the problem might be if there isn't any depth of hardcore under that top 6".

glasshouse · Dec 22, 2019

Woolless said:
Our farm road is in need of some TLC, it's gone downhill quick with potholes in the last couple of months and I'm getting it in the neck from my other half! I would love to get it tarmacked (it is only about 250 yards) but at the moment some running repairs are the order of the day. Previously repaired with type 1 banged in with a fence post, but unsurprisingly that doesn't last long. So:

-What type of aggregate is best for repairing potholes?

-What would be best to use for compacting the aggregate in to the holes? Whacker? Roller?

TIA

Power harrow it

Lucas Mac · Dec 27, 2019

Did anyone ever try using used tires with the sidewalls cut out just leaving the rings. Then you fill the rings with gravel. It’s called mechanical concrete, I saw it on YouTube

steveR · Dec 27, 2019

dannewhouse said:
How much are these cement stabilization jobs?
Where they bring up say 6" of existing material and mix cement with it?

Hadf a price a couple of years ago on a sunken lane and past and area I had hoped to develop. The "concrete" road way was gomh to be a sweetener for the other users of the lane and residents! I spoke to a famer who had a drive done. Pretty pleased with the job, and looked good.

You need to buy a lot of extra fill and I was told crushed concrete was the best material.

I still think that you need to build a proper crown into the road, whatever the material, when on a farm road unless you have a real deep base material.

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