poured concrete walls

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
I’ve my own shutters and tie bolts,they make a great wall but the time it takes setting up and moving is unreal,did my last silage pit wall out of 20’x4’x6” panels,far faster and easier.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Why not fit pannels in the stations and not bother with a shuttered wall, especially if you can let the pannels in from above?

You can use the same panels over again though, so you don't need to buy as many, ready mixed concrete would be cheaper than precast concrete panels. Only drawback is that it would take longer to pour the wall than putting in panels. Another advantage of panels is that you can lift them out and reuse if you decide to extend or change the layout of a shed.
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
You can use the same panels over again though, so you don't need to buy as many, ready mixed concrete would be cheaper than precast concrete panels. Only drawback is that it would take longer to pour the wall than putting in panels. Another advantage of panels is that you can lift them out and reuse if you decide to extend or change the layout of a shed.
And panels are stronger as they are prestressed rather than reinforced
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
In Europe, it's common to build houses using poured concrete walls and it's very quick (quicker than our primitive stacking of mud/clay bricks...). They use dedicated metal moulds. So it certainly can be done with the right kit.
Interesting, how do they deal with damp proofing and cavity insulation? I agree that brick walls and slate or tile roofs are becoming silly in an age of affordable and scarce housing
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
Is the shuttered wall is anchored into the ground so any hits low down it won't be moving? In this respect it would be stronger and I guess this is where they see most of the impacts
Not anchored, some can be done straight onto concrete or onto hardcore no reinforcement apart from corner beams il put a brace across (rebar) these are usually 12or16 inch thick,storing grain 25ft deep in the middle of store
 

Pan mixer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Is the shuttered wall is anchored into the ground so any hits low down it won't be moving? In this respect it would be stronger and I guess this is where they see most of the impacts
See my above post with the photographs, we have done about 300 shuttered walls, mostly 20foot by 8 feet high round the yard over the last 20 years, no cracking or leaking evident.

I am in an exposed position (for Essex) and had an old shed blow down in 1987, ever since I have thought that the shuttered walls make the shed behave like it is 8 feet shorter as the 'foundations go up the legs if you see what I mean.
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Not anchored, some can be done straight onto concrete or onto hardcore no reinforcement apart from corner beams il put a brace across (rebar) these are usually 12or16 inch thick,storing grain 25ft deep in the middle of store
In theory, pound for pound prestressed can be made stronger because it's permanently kept under compression which is concrete's big strength. That's just theory though, I haven't poured any walls unlike you! In the real world a proper job and good reinforcing can doubtless be tougher
 
Location
West Wales
If I were to be paying someone to construct a silage clamp. Would It be cheaper shuttering it or panels. I’ve always been draw to panels for ease of use and that I don’t know anyone who does large scale shuttering locally although there must be someone. As a rule I’m a typical stockman so everything gets a driven into on a regular basis.

the comment above about a 6incj panel cracking is a little worrying to say the least!
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
If I were to be paying someone to construct a silage clamp. Would It be cheaper shuttering it or panels. I’ve always been draw to panels for ease of use and that I don’t know anyone who does large scale shuttering locally although there must be someone. As a rule I’m a typical stockman so everything gets a driven into on a regular basis.

the comment above about a 6incj panel cracking is a little worrying to say the least!

It would take a fair machine to crack a 6” panel,your average farm loadall wouldn’t do it.
 

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