Horny Angus

Dman2

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Location

Durham, UK

• Jan 24, 2020

• #1

I have an animal that was sold to me as an Angus x steer from a dairy herd
Its now @ 12 month old and has small horns??
Horns are no where near as big as they would have been if it was a Limmy .
Spoke to guy I bought it off, and his records obviously say its an AA.
However BCMS won`t alter the passport unless breeder says its wrong.

Cannot really sell it as an Angus if its got horns

Or do Angus crosses sometimes have horns???

 

Northeastfarmer

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Location

Cleveland

• Jan 24, 2020

• #2

Just get the horns removed and leave it as it is...

 

Beames

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Location

South wales

• Jan 24, 2020

• #3

Definitely horns and not scurs?

 

HasthorpeGrange

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Location

Lincolnshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #4

Sometimes if both parents are polled they grow a little stump called a scur. They’ll never grow into proper horns though

 

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Agrivator

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• Jan 24, 2020

• #5

But the Canadian Holstein has horns. So does the British Friesian.

But if it looks like an angus cross, just look innocent. It's when so-called Angus crosses look like Simmental crosses....................

 

spin cycle

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Location

north norfolk

• Jan 24, 2020

• #6

assuming it's the same as in sheep it'd be odd to have horns/scurs in a wether with one true polled parent....if it were a ram lamb maybe.....i reckon op's animal has small horns due to castration and there were horns in both parents

 

HasthorpeGrange

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Location

Lincolnshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #7

Just had an angus steer go to market today as the op describes but defiantly angus

 

spin cycle

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Location

north norfolk

• Jan 24, 2020

• #8

perhaps the daddy was a 'dangus' ?

 

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Gedd

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Livestock Farmer

• Jan 24, 2020

• #9

Angus crosses in hexham today had horns

 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer

Location

Ayrshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #10

The modern Angus is not an Angus, just as the modern Hereford is not a Hereford....

 

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hillbilly2nd

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• Jan 24, 2020

• #11

once had an angus bull bred 3 horned calves in 1 year,bull,s mother and father were both canadian imports, 2 of the calves were out of aa/friesen cows and the third was out of a blue grey. farmer who sold me the bull, bought all the aax bullocks asked me if i had bought the three of them as twin ons.

 

HarryB97

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Mixed Farmer

• Jan 24, 2020

• #12

It's nothing to worry about a small stump an inch or two long which resembles horn like material is quite normal

 

M-J-G

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Location

Sunny Scotland (But I wasn't born here)

• Jan 24, 2020

• #13

Cowgirl said:

The modern Angus is not an Angus, just as the modern Hereford is not a Hereford....

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I don't disagree, but when will they be classed as Angus or Hereford?
Isn't the origional Hereford a combination of breeds?

 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer

Location

Ayrshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #14

M-J-G said:

I don't disagree, but when will they be classed as Angus or Hereford?
Isn't the origional Hereford a combination of breeds?

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Not since the late 1700s.

 

Samcowman

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Mixed Farmer

Location

Cornwall

• Jan 24, 2020

• #15

It can happen with the modern Angus. Had a bull here that threw quite a few with horns. Definitely were horns but never grew full sized like a limmy

 

Chae1

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Aberdeenshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #16

Thought this thread was about my neighbour!

 

M-J-G

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Sunny Scotland (But I wasn't born here)

• Jan 24, 2020

• #17

Cowgirl said:

Not since the late 1700s.

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And after that, how long was it until they were recognised as pure?

 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer

Location

Ayrshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #18

1846

 

M-J-G

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Location

Sunny Scotland (But I wasn't born here)

• Jan 24, 2020

• #19

Cowgirl said:

1846

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So 50 to 100 years

 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer

Location

Ayrshire

• Jan 24, 2020

• #20

M-J-G said:

So 50 to 100 years

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To the publication of the first herd book, yes.