What’s the speed limit?

Jerry · Feb 11, 2020

Is the speed limit(s) on various roads for a current Hilux the same as a standard car?

I was told it was when I bought it but better half has been in a speed awareness course today (oops ?) and said they put the Reg in and I should be doubt 60 max on motorway for instance.

Hfd Cattle · Feb 11, 2020

A commercial vehicle,which a pickup is, is subject to different speed limits than a car . Not sure what they are though .

How much · Feb 11, 2020

There is a good article here , courtesy of what car pickup wise it depend on if it has extra rear seats or simple commercial and its weight read the whole article for better explanation the bit specifically for pickups is below .

Pick-up truck speed limits
Speed limits for pick-up trucks are just as complicated, although on the whole they are allowed to travel at the same speed as cars because most are designed to just sneak under the weight threshold.

Pick-ups classified solely for commercial use are typically limited to single-cab pick-ups, as the lack of a rear set of seats makes them very obviously not a dual-purpose vehicle.

There are also exceptions for those pick-ups that weigh over 2040kg and this can catch out a few of the very high-end models. Check the unladen weight of the vehicle and make sure it is below the limit.

M-J-G · Feb 11, 2020

Bullring · Feb 11, 2020

M-J-G said:
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That’s not true about the amarok, the older 2l ones were just under the limit so could do car speed limits but the new v6 ones are over the weight limit so are suppose to reduce speeds.

ollie989898 · Feb 11, 2020

They have made it so commercial vehicles have to slow down a bit. This is particularly aimed at the white van man who has a full load on board who wants to go 60mph everywhere. Not all pick ups are classed as commercial though.

M-J-G · Feb 11, 2020

Bullring said:
That’s not true about the amarok, the older 2l ones were just under the limit so could do car speed limits but the new v6 ones are over the weight limit so are suppose to reduce speeds.

I don't know about particular makes or models, it was more to show the 2040kg is the limit.

I take it if you got the VAT back it's commercial?

Red Fred · Feb 11, 2020

ollie989898 said:
They have made it so commercial vehicles have to slow down a bit. This is particularly aimed at the white van man who has a full load on board who wants to go 60mph everywhere. Not all pick ups are classed as commercial though.

So Sprinter vans have to stick to 50 on the single lane bits of A roads? Has anyone ever told them?

arcobob · Feb 11, 2020

On my speed awareness course I was told that if VAT had been reclaimed at the time of purchase it was a commercial vehicle and therefore subject to the same limits as vans. When I remarked that it was a tax thing I was threatened with a fine or deportation.

Hfd Cattle · Feb 11, 2020

Red Fred said:
So Sprinter vans have to stick to 50 on the single lane bits of A roads? Has anyone ever told them?

I think they think it means 50 mph per all axle l

Bullring · Feb 11, 2020

M-J-G said:
I don't know about particular makes or models, it was more to show the 2040kg is the limit.

I take it if you got the VAT back it's commercial?

In order to make a pickup commercial to claim the vat back it has to be able to carry over 1000kgs in the tub, nothing to do with the weight, most double cab pickups are classed as dual purpose.

arcobob · Feb 11, 2020

It is clear that once again the law is an ass. Anyone who has been on a speed awareness course can question many aspects and rightly say that it is not an exact science. The people who run these things are so full of the proverbial that they cannot answer half the questions accurately.

Nearly · Feb 11, 2020

Red Fred said:
So Sprinter vans have to stick to 50 on the single lane bits of A roads? Has anyone ever told them?

Letters through the post on a regular basis, £30 and 3 points.

@TripleSix

M-J-G · Feb 11, 2020

Bullring said:
In order to make a pickup commercial to claim the vat back it has to be able to carry over 1000kgs in the tub, nothing to do with the weight, most double cab pickups are classed as dual purpose.

So a double cab that's over 2040kg isn't subject to different speed regulations to a car?

Tomr10 · Feb 11, 2020

Same goes for converted Van's to campers need to change rating

Drillman · Feb 11, 2020

My Ranger is well over the 2040kg threshold but I was done under car rules. Chap on my naughty boy learn to drive slower course said they must have given me the benefit of the doubt. Just as well or the fine and points would have been more??

arcobob · Feb 11, 2020

Drillman said:
My Ranger is well over the 2040kg threshold but I was done under car rules. Chap on my naughty boy learn to drive slower course said they must have given me the benefit of the doubt. Just as well or the fine and points would have been more??

Same with me and my Navara double cab. They make it up as they go :scratchhead:

arcobob · Feb 11, 2020

Speed awareness courses are yet another cash raising stunt.

How much · Feb 11, 2020

M-J-G said:
So a double cab that's over 2040kg isn't subject to different speed regulations to a car?

No a double cab that is over 2040kg nett weight is a duel purpose vehicle but because it over 2040kg has to stick to van speed limits so on single carriageway roads 50mph and on duel carriageways 60mph

essexpete · Feb 11, 2020

Can someone tell me where a Discovery 5 commercial without rear seats would be treated for the speed limits?

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