Food Security

Chris F · Mar 14, 2020

Are the general public about to get a lesson in food security? Supermarket shelves in many areas are empty due to panic buying. I just went to the butchers and he isn't worried about his supply of local meat (so I have my pork and black pudding sausages). Can the same be said for anything we import?

curlietailz · Mar 14, 2020

Talk on BBC about the potential to close ports
I’m assuming that means for human traffic
Because if it doesn’t then there will be riots !!

Lowland1 · Mar 14, 2020

We are having a very good run on our veg to UK until they close the airports. Then i go bankrupt and everyone starts hoarding frozen peas.

egbert · Mar 14, 2020

We did a quick tally up, and there's a coupla boxes of porridge oats, and enough beef in't freezer to see us through!

But I suspect not.
As long as the work rota is robust enough, and the packing/delivering keeps happening,
all of the morons who went nuts last week won't be out shopping next, so it soon evens out.

Obviously if the delivery system starts to fail - or the staffing at utilities- then the poop hits the fan real fast.
If the shelves aren't restocked 24 hours later.....

gone up the hill · Mar 14, 2020

Chris F said:
Are the general public about to get a lesson in food security? Supermarket shelves in many areas are empty due to panic buying. I just went to the butchers and he isn't worried about his supply of local meat (so I have my pork and black pudding sausages). Can the same be said for anything we import?

Most likely no livestock markets from next week so I wouldn't be too sure ref the supply of meat if the farm gate price dives which it will do if the markets are closed!

willy · Mar 14, 2020

I’m just stocking up on bullets and cartridges to defend my grain store and lambs from the marauding masses

Martin Holden · Mar 14, 2020

egbert said:
We did a quick tally up, and there's a coupla boxes of porridge oats, and enough beef in't freezer to see us through!

But I suspect not.
As long as the work rota is robust enough, and the packing/delivering keeps happening,
all of the morons who went nuts last week won't be out shopping next, so it soon evens out.

Obviously if the delivery system starts to fail - or the staffing at utilities- then the poop hits the fan real fast.
If the shelves aren't restocked 24 hours later.....

While I fully appreciate the seriousness of Covid 19, Is the world not going way over the top with its reaction? By now the virus will have spread worldwide and I don’t think lockdown is necessarily going to make it go away; it may slow it down but it seems to being treated like the Plague which killed all, young and old. Flu still contributes to many premature deaths each year! How bad do the scientists think this will get? We all remember CJD was going to be an epidemic.

gone up the hill · Mar 14, 2020

Martin Holden said:
While I fully appreciate the seriousness of Covid 19, Is the world not going way over the top with its reaction? By now the virus will have spread worldwide and I don’t think lockdown is necessarily going to make it go away; it may slow it down but it seems to being treated like the Plague which killed all, young and old. Flu still contributes to many premature deaths each year! How bad do the scientists think this will get? We all remember CJD was going to be an epidemic.

Not about saving lives, its about causing an economic depression like the 30's and taking away people's liberty's/ freedoms, thus why governments across the world have lost the plot and are falling over themselves to shut everything down!

Any shut down will have to be for at least 3+ months.

Funny thing is Russia seems very quiet on what is happening there.

Chris F · Mar 14, 2020

Martin Holden said:
While I fully appreciate the seriousness of Covid 19, Is the world not going way over the top with its reaction? By now the virus will have spread worldwide and I don’t think lockdown is necessarily going to make it go away; it may slow it down but it seems to being treated like the Plague which killed all, young and old. Flu still contributes to many premature deaths each year! How bad do the scientists think this will get? We all remember CJD was going to be an epidemic.

Well very early on I read that China predicted 60m dead worldwide. With current rate, could be anywhere between 100k and 160m. It's very nasty indeed. But not civilization ending.

Sombre to think that it will very likely kill TFF members. Although farmers are very low risk, so here's hoping.

7610 super q · Mar 14, 2020

I can't keep up with demand. Going to run out of woodworm stock soon.

willy · Mar 14, 2020

Apparently North Korea are just shooting people with the virus

gone up the hill · Mar 14, 2020

Edit...

NI have just said they are going to close schools for at least 4 months so any lockdown down will be for 6 months at least so next Sept before things get back to anything like normal.

Will be very few businesses in any sector left by then!

7610 super q · Mar 14, 2020

willy said:
I’m just stocking up on bullets and cartridges to defend my grain store and lambs from the marauding masses

As has been said before, we may well think we're OK cos we've got the food, defending it from the marauding masses will be the tricky part.

kfpben · Mar 14, 2020

Friend of mine tried to do some shopping in an Aberdeen Tescos earlier- no meat, potatoes, carrots, eggs, and as for bog roll and hand cleaner- forget it!

Ukjay · Mar 14, 2020

Chris F said:
Are the general public about to get a lesson in food security? Supermarket shelves in many areas are empty due to panic buying. I just went to the butchers and he isn't worried about his supply of local meat (so I have my pork and black pudding sausages). Can the same be said for anything we import?

For me - I did think for a split second that it may actually be a real good lesson on the back of this, but then I remembered - the f**ktards only have short term memories, so as soon as this is over - they will go right back to buying the 1.99 water impregnated chickens and processed foods unfortunately.

Oh and as for defending yoiur own food stocks, good luck with that as several countries have seen serious harm through food riots. Difficult times ahead because a lot of people only care for their phone and faceache... they will do whatever when the sh!t hits the fan.

roscoe erf · Mar 14, 2020

willy said:
I’m just stocking up on bullets and cartridges to defend my grain store and lambs from the marauding masses

hard place to defend that open yard you need some barricades and dig a few moats round throw in some fire pits as well you'll be sorted

Ukjay · Mar 14, 2020

roscoe erf said:
hard place to defend that open yard you need some barricades and dig a few moats round throw in some fire pits as well you'll be sorted

He's ok, Rutland is full of polite people

Martin Holden · Mar 14, 2020

Chris F said:
Well very early on I read that China predicted 60m dead worldwide. With current rate, could be anywhere between 100k and 160m. It's very nasty indeed. But not civilization ending.

Sombre to think that it will very likely kill TFF members. Although farmers are very low risk, so here's hoping.

I guess you are right. Maybe a TFF member may succumb to this and one is one too many! It is serious but I can’t see how mankind can eradicate it other than by natural extinction.

Dan Mac · Mar 14, 2020

willy said:
Apparently North Korea are just shooting people with the virus

Have DEFRA been helping out over there ?

Martin Holden · Mar 14, 2020

gone up the hill said:
Not about saving lives, its about causing an economic depression like the 30's and taking away people's liberty's/ freedoms, thus why governments across the world have lost the plot and are falling over themselves to shut everything down!

Any shut down will have to be for at least 3+ months.

Funny thing is Russia seems very quiet on what is happening there.

That’s a very good point. What’s happening in Russia. The world can’t shut for 3 months. The economic effect would be catastrophic beyond belief.

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