If markets shut and firms lower deadweight prices we should stop sending animals for a week. Before coronavirus we could have stopped sending them for a month and it wouldnt have worked but its a different ball game now with supply chain caught out by panic buying/hoarding. Im not bothered what the public would think, we cannot keep being robbed when supermarkets and the likes of Larry goodman make millions as nothing more than middle men.
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
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gone up the hill
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- Devon
Ha ha well hopefully it wont be like the chap pictured in the media on a UK high street the other day...
He had all the above kit on.................... Except any gloves on his hands..
gone up the hill
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If they did shut the markets then they will have to set a min price per kilo deadweight regardless of grade/fat cover for cattle/ sheep etc
£4 kilo for beef cattle
£6.50 kilo for hoggs
£7 kilo for spring lambs
£4 kilo for cull ewes.
£3.50 kilo for cull cows.
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- Montgomeryshire
Don't we all, not that I'm going to list them? I guess I'm 'at risk' personally too, as I have mild asthma apparently. Been coughing for several years, which is helping me to isolate now.
I had a nasty bug at Chrismas too, but that's all it was, likely brought home from a school with lots of International boarders which have always been melting pots. I will bow to your obviously greater knowledge though, and hope you're right. I won't be holding my breath though.
While i tend to agree with you i think if things got really bad live streaming and online bidding could be done. Cattle pictures , lot numbers and in some cases weights could be put up on FB etc a few days before the sale. Tech has come on massively and alot of live streaming is only disliked by dealers who wouldnt even let market reports be published if they had there way. No way is it ideal but better than no markets at all
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- South Molton
The issue is that the cases are from infections a week behind, and the deaths probably from infections 2 weeks ago.Don't we all, not that I'm going to list them? I guess I'm 'at risk' personally too, as I have mild asthma apparently. Been coughing for several years, which is helping me to isolate now.
I had a nasty bug at Chrismas too, but that's all it was, likely brought home from a school with lots of International boarders which have always been melting pots. I will bow to your obviously greater knowledge though, and hope you're right. I won't be holding my breath though.
Northeastfarmer
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Half the cattle buyers don’t even have a smart phone let alone bidding on cattle via live streaming
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- South Molton
Perhaps weigh stores, have a camera across the ring towards a marker in the ring to show height gauged in colour segment to make it easier to see height and finally a grading of conformation front middle and rear on a 1-5 scale.
Maybe a new thread on market options. We need to be thinking ahead for those that dont want to attend and in case of the inevitable
You would be amazed how fast they would get organised if they thought cattle would be cheap
Northeastfarmer
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I wouldn’t be
I think it is very important to keep markets open. But why I ask the question is because if say only 15% of finished cattle go through the market they could easy say anit needed has that can go same way and yes the price will drop but they won't worry about that they never do in fact they will probably be glad it will look good in the eye the public that meat is a bit cheaper. They know stock is out there and they know farmers can't afford to hold them long. But I was told once that a farmer on the face of it has no power but in times of need have all the power maybe this week if you send dead weight maybe go liveweight let's help are self's a bit. Just a few thoughts of mine hope they make some sence. And I might well be well out on percentage that go market tho
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- Mendips Somerset
i sort of hope if trade is good through summer it might encourage breeders to keep and sell more of their own and keep the store rings short , what sort of uplift in lamb price would encourage you to do that ? i wont be letting the creep feeders run short this year .
its the only way your going to increase breeder prices , its no different for us ram breeders , seen plenty of second rate rams sold as stores jan- feb come out again hard fed by autumn
gone up the hill
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Cases are not going to get anywhere near as bad as has been predicted by the computer models.
And these computer models are the same ones that predicted thousands would die from CJD/ Swine fever/ Sars etc etc and what happened, the country carried on like normal and the amount of deaths were in the few hundreds at most.
And also if this virus is so easily to catch then why are dentists being allowed to carry on like normal and do routine work? you would think if the situation is as grave as they are trying to make us believe it will be in two/three weeks time then dentist's would have been shut down except to carry out emergency work.
And most NHS trusts are still allowing staff to take annual leave as normal....
gone up the hill
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- Devon
I think quite a few farmers have switched to liveweight selling over the last few months for prime cattle but most of them are going thru the store ring even thou they should be in the prime ring.
cattleman123
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- devon
Dont need computer models when i can see italy on the news
Didnt think that had worked for years, they cant even get the board with ages,vendors and breeds to work!
cattleman123
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- devon
Don't you be so sure that's a statement that you are not qualified to make....better to over predict than under with this Virus,Boris and the Gov are doing a grand job
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- Mendips Somerset
this may be a good time for auctioneers to get into online selling , bidr has a successful sale in NZ , can be viewed and bid on on your phone , think it would work better to sell through a ring though (less hassle with cameras ) worcester charollais sale is on line (non bidding) most years and is interesting to watch on a saturday morning , could be a good time to claw back some of those deadweight sellers , as would increase buyers not willing to travel but can arrange transport . considering most lambs sold these days have eid they (buyers) could have data regard farms past history on grades etc with a simple comp program to give confidence on quality and grades .
This could really be a good opportunity for industry , Wish Derick Mead was still around , he would have grabbed it with both hands .