Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
The best crop ( in $ / ha return or actual profit, but also pretty high yielding as well ) was grain sorghum straight after faba beans with NO inputs other than seed & diesel . . .

Admittedly it was a wet summer, there was still reasonable soil moisture when beans were harvested & we had the ideal, slow flood go through the sorghum in Feb, but still, that is my ideal low input cropping model
Once I get around to incorporating livestock grazing into my arable farming ( assuming I am still here next year ), I can’t see the need for any fert at all
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
An email from my bank today


Rabobank
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Dear Roy and Marlena,

As we continue to monitor the spread of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) across Australia and globally, I would like to outline the support Rabobank can provide in the event your business is impacted, and the measures we are taking to safeguard our clients and staff.

We want to reassure you that we are committed to maintaining our service to you. We will do everything in our capacity to support you and your business.

Supporting our clients


While the Australian agricultural sector is in an overall strong position, we know there could be circumstances where your business is impacted. In those instances, we will work with you to tailor an appropriate solution, which could include:
  • deferral of scheduled loan payments,
  • waiving of break costs on early redemption of farm management deposits to allow access to needed funds,
  • waiving of fees on loan increases necessary for capitalisation of interest and/or rebuilding operations and
  • waiving of fees for equipment finance variations.
We also know the immediate priority for many clients is managing drought conditions or rebuilding following improving seasonal conditions, and we will continue to support you.

Please get in touch with us to discuss support options, and we will be happy to assist.

Contact with our clients

We value our relationship with you and place your health and safety as a top priority. Our people are also following strict guidelines with respect to their own health in an effort to minimise the risk associated with the spread of COVID-19 between our staff and clients.

With most of our staff working from home, and the branches largely unattended, we remain fully contactable and will be conducting all of our business over the phone and Skype. Your Rural Manager will be in touch and if you need assistance please continue to contact your Rural Manager, your local branch number or our Customer Service Unit (1800 025 484).

More information
During this period we would like to assure our clients and business partners that our strong commitment to you, and the agricultural sector, remains unchanged.

If you have any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact medirectly.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
The best crop ( in $ / ha return or actual profit, but also pretty high yielding as well ) was grain sorghum straight after faba beans with NO inputs other than seed & diesel . . .

Admittedly it was a wet summer, there was still reasonable soil moisture when beans were harvested & we had the ideal, slow flood go through the sorghum in Feb, but still, that is my ideal low input cropping model
Once I get around to incorporating livestock grazing into my arable farming ( assuming I am still here next year ), I can’t see the need for any fert at all
But, it's essential! :facepalm:

Even more essential if you cannot control your other business costs sufficiently, and need to liquidate your natural capital to pay the bills.

Wormers are essential to livestock farming if you don't graze your stock properly, lots of things can be essential, in this respect.

Farmers are essential if you don't grow your own food supply.
Sheep are essential if you knit your own woollen clothing.

That's what I meant by "a clusterfuçk" - everyone thinks they are doing something essential [for the greater good/feeding the world] but the reality is different.
We aren't.

Governments aren't essential, but in the absence of everyone adopting a holistic decisionmaking framework, they are essential.
There's the rub.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
An email from my bank today


Rabobank

3230924.jpg

Dear Roy and Marlena,

As we continue to monitor the spread of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) across Australia and globally, I would like to outline the support Rabobank can provide in the event your business is impacted, and the measures we are taking to safeguard our clients and staff.

We want to reassure you that we are committed to maintaining our service to you. We will do everything in our capacity to support you and your business.

Supporting our clients


While the Australian agricultural sector is in an overall strong position, we know there could be circumstances where your business is impacted. In those instances, we will work with you to tailor an appropriate solution, which could include:
  • deferral of scheduled loan payments,
  • waiving of break costs on early redemption of farm management deposits to allow access to needed funds,
  • waiving of fees on loan increases necessary for capitalisation of interest and/or rebuilding operations and
  • waiving of fees for equipment finance variations.
We also know the immediate priority for many clients is managing drought conditions or rebuilding following improving seasonal conditions, and we will continue to support you.

Please get in touch with us to discuss support options, and we will be happy to assist.

Contact with our clients

We value our relationship with you and place your health and safety as a top priority. Our people are also following strict guidelines with respect to their own health in an effort to minimise the risk associated with the spread of COVID-19 between our staff and clients.

With most of our staff working from home, and the branches largely unattended, we remain fully contactable and will be conducting all of our business over the phone and Skype. Your Rural Manager will be in touch and if you need assistance please continue to contact your Rural Manager, your local branch number or our Customer Service Unit (1800 025 484).

More information
During this period we would like to assure our clients and business partners that our strong commitment to you, and the agricultural sector, remains unchanged.

If you have any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact medirectly.

Similar will happen here, in fact there are already rumblings.
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
I got an interesting comment when I posted that email on another thread

only a couple of lines, but spoke fathoms to me:ROFLMAO:
Tha mindset of entitlement. I was once at a meeting discussing the Beef efficiency scheme (an information gathering scheme for suckled calves inc recording birth and by year old weights, tissue tagging etc) and the likely work involved versus the payments. A farmer interrupted by shouting "Tell them to just give us the f**king money!" That is the worst example I have seen, pure greed believing that you should get something for nothing.
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Sad, isn’t it . . .
The thing which is really sad is once this calamity is over it will rapidly go back to dog eat dog in the food industry and in the UK food supply and security will slip to the back of their minds once more.

As an industry we need resource not money,resources to move our businesses to a regenerative way.Yes it can be done as I should be putting more effort towards changing however for various reasons I’ve had a manic 5 years and havent had the energy left to apply change.

I’ll get there.......soon.:sleep:
 

CornishTone

Member
BASIS
Location
Cornwall
The thing which is really sad is once this calamity is over it will rapidly go back to dog eat dog in the food industry and in the UK food supply and security will slip to the back of their minds once more.

I think this calamity has proven that the dogs behave even worse during the calamity. Meat prices through the floor to the producer and through the roof to the consumer.

The food industry between the producer and the consumer is proving itself to be run by a bunch of opportunistic crooks. (Nothing new there of course).

Animals fighting in the isles over the basics. Panic buying of perishable produce and then chucking it a week later (those that are doing this need the birch:mad:). People putting cream on their scones before the jam. Where does it end? Barbarism is but a gnats tit away!

Hopefully this calamity will allow the public and policy makers to understand the advantage of shorter supply chains, take more interest in food production, and see the value of well produced food vs over processed sh1te...

hopefully!
 
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holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think this calamity has proven that the dogs behave even worse during the calamity. Meat prices through the floor to the producer and through the roof to the consumer.

The food industry between the producer and the consumer is proving itself to be run by a bunch of opportunistic crooks. (Nothing new there of course).

Animals fighting in the isles over the basics. Panic buying of perishable produce and then chucking it a week later (those that are doing this need the birch:mad:). People putting cream on their scones before the jam. Where does it end? Barbarism is but a gnats tit away!

Hopefully this calamity will allow the public and policy makers to understand the advantage of shorter supply chains, take more interest in food production, and see the value of well produced food vs over processed sh1te...

hopefully!
Surely you put the cream on one side and the jam on the other then bring them together.....

Or was I misinformed all along? :ROFLMAO:
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Well I had a day to remember.

3 boys off school and so were with me. Went to the field at the back of the yard to try which drill would be best for present conditions.

anyway the field is split with a three strand electric line of poles.so we have a track down the middle under the poles which effectively splits the field in half. I was on one drill with my 7 year old, my father was on the other drill other my 13 year old and my 10 year old was sitting in my truck between the fields (under the electric).

well builder in the yard had a 20 tonne 360 pulling an old barn down and levelling when he caught the wires. Sending them flying. 8 poles down and the two wires either side come off the poles and fall either side of my pickup with my 10 year old inside. Sparking and banging.

luckily I had the number in the cab for electric emergency number is 105 (save it in your phone) rang them and they said keep him on the cab and they will be here shortly. Within 15 mins some one was here but it took 2.5hours before it was safe to get him out. Luckily his guardian angel was looking over him andnobody got hurt. But Jesus could have been sh!t.
 

CornishTone

Member
BASIS
Location
Cornwall
Well I had a day to remember.

3 boys off school and so were with me. Went to the field at the back of the yard to try which drill would be best for present conditions.

anyway the field is split with a three strand electric line of poles.so we have a track down the middle under the poles which effectively splits the field in half. I was on one drill with my 7 year old, my father was on the other drill other my 13 year old and my 10 year old was sitting in my truck between the fields (under the electric).

well builder in the yard had a 20 tonne 360 pulling an old barn down and levelling when he caught the wires. Sending them flying. 8 poles down and the two wires either side come off the poles and fall either side of my pickup with my 10 year old inside. Sparking and banging.

luckily I had the number in the cab for electric emergency number is 105 (save it in your phone) rang them and they said keep him on the cab and they will be here shortly. Within 15 mins some one was here but it took 2.5hours before it was safe to get him out. Luckily his guardian angel was looking over him andnobody got hurt. But Jesus could have been sh!t.

Someone was looking down on you lot today I reckon!

Time for a rum and coke without the coke I should think?
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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