- Location
- West Country
Nettles and Brambles
- Thread starter Derrick Hughes
- Start date
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I disagree. I’ve sprayed off a couple of pp fields with nettles in with Kyleo over the last couple of years. Nettles have come back in the following crop. Pretty sure it doesn’t ‘kill’ them any more than straight glyphosate, in that it just burns the top off.
Checking the label earlier as need to clear nettles from those fields before a reseed, Kyleo doesn’t look to have nettles on the label anymore (I’m sure it used to
). Just ordered Thistlex to take nettles out properly, then glyphosate in a month, prior to drilling.
ollie989898
Member
I disagree. I’ve sprayed off a couple of pp fields with nettles in with Kyleo over the last couple of years. Nettles have come back in the following crop. Pretty sure it doesn’t ‘kill’ them any more than straight glyphosate, in that it just burns the top off.
Checking the label earlier as need to clear nettles from those fields before a reseed, Kyleo doesn’t look to have nettles on the label anymore (I’m sure it used to
I've had good results with it, no idea why you didn't.
I've known people mix roundup and pastor- against my advice I would add- the cost of it must be mental.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
I have used Thistlex in the past about 20 years ago never had any success with it killing nettles
The golden rule is:
Triclopyr ( Garlon etc) for nettles and docks, and with diesel for gorse.
Clopyralid (Dow Shield etc) for creeping thistle.
Fluroxypyr ( Starane etc) for cleavers.
They are very expensive, so it is wasteful and maybe less effective to mix them when you want to target a specific weed. The products that are a mixture are very heavily advertised, and we all tend to succumb to constant brainwashing.
Triclopyr ( Garlon etc) for nettles and docks, and with diesel for gorse.
Clopyralid (Dow Shield etc) for creeping thistle.
Fluroxypyr ( Starane etc) for cleavers.
They are very expensive, so it is wasteful and maybe less effective to mix them when you want to target a specific weed. The products that are a mixture are very heavily advertised, and we all tend to succumb to constant brainwashing.
- Location
- Ceredigion
It was Garlon i used years ago . Killed brambles dead in one hit
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
- Location
- Ceredigion
Edit it was not Garlon but Grazon Pro
So next question how long does it stay active or safe to use ?
So next question how long does it stay active or safe to use ?
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
did a 6ac field with it last autumn lots of field thistles and small nettles , thistles gone (mostly) nettles back ,last week
- Location
- Near Colchester
Working it all out from the air, I have 7 acres of brambles that are too thick to graze, I mustn't claim subsidy on them because of that, I mustn't destroy them because of Landlords (and my) desire to leave them as habitat.
Cattle won't touch them, easycare sheep don't get tangled in them, I hope to get some sort of payment for them under Elms when it gets here, it is ridiculous that I could get the subsidy on the area for grazing land if I flailed them.
Neither Grazon pro nor thistlex works very well on them unless it is the right day, I am not sure when that day is, just seems that it works sometimes and not others on areas where I am allowed to control them.
ollie989898
Member
Pastor which contains all three chemicals and does the lot if you use a high enough rate.
ollie989898
Member
You won't control mature brambles very readily, you need to flail them down tight and hit the regrowth.
I have had some success with roundup on brambles in the past but it takes a couple of goes.
- Location
- East Sussex
I actually found out last year that MCPA on the regrowth fcks them pretty good.
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Pastor used to have a rate on the bottle for knapsack application too, 60ml per 10litre water iirc.
Hasn’t been there for a good few years now, I wonder why not?
My suspicion would be that Dow haven’t kept the required licences up when they’ve got another more lucrative product to sell rather than there been some sort of good and valid reasons for the recommendation to be removed.
- Location
- Summer set
Might pay to find Someone with a knapsack PA6-A ( The A is for Aquatic)
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
The only common ingredient with Pastor in your mix is the Shield (Clorpyralid), certainly not the CMPP.
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Near to water you need PA6 A and a LERAP 3 star nozzle and then you can spray to within one meter of water.
I have exactly the same problem the morning after the night before. I blame the dirty glasses.