Don’t use an SU, use zypar. Easy.
OSR next year
- Thread starter Banana Bar
- Start date
- Location
- Yorks
I do the same (don't usr SU).
Think rape really needd to follow an early harvested crop to give it a chance, but if winter barley margins are iffy and osr is difficult to grow, then it leans me towards wheat, spring barley, 2 year legume fallow.
Just working on stewardship application now. Got a spreadsheet for the next 5 years of cropping. Always done ok with rape here, but thinking it would be better replaced with stewardship options. Just hope I get paid the stewardship payments on time.
That was part of the fun, but it doesn’t make them a keeper....
I get you. We are planning rape after winter barley and some fairing spring barley which is meant to be very early to harvest compared to the other spring barleys.
- Location
- North Kent, UK
We follow spring barley with osr. Cut the barley as high we can (brackling depending) and have the straw baled. I find spring barley cleaner and more profitable than winter barley. I keep thinking that autocast and chopping the straw might be an alternative but I can’t warrant the investment in the autocaster.
SilliamWhale
Member
Had my fingers burned with SU and Osr. Never again. Zypar now
Here we are reminiscing about 'unproductive crops' and you've brought up the one that we all wish we could sow again: Wild Oats ?
- Location
- Berkshire
I had this pop up from 6 years ago on my FB feed, just look at all the wall to wall fields of yellow in the background, the landscape would look very different today !!
Potatoes.
- Location
- S E Glos
And the best first wheats follow.......
- Location
- Berkshire
Yep, you guessed it...
Linseed or pulses
SilliamWhale
Member
I rented some fields out for spuds last year. £350 acre. Fields are utterly shagged and headlands are grim.
Ok it had been a tough year but by the time you take out the lower yield because of the shagged headlands, the extrs cost of having to restructure next year as well I reckon it wouldnt have been £200-50 acre income max. And a cost to the following yield for a year or two.
Dont miss them. Would need £500 acre to do it again
- Location
- Berkshire
I'd say OSR as there's a much longer period to get BG to chit before planting wheat.
Yield wise nothing in it.
Yield wise nothing in it.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Osr was ace to plough after....and you needed to because of the BG return. Wheat after linseed is best. Or grass.
- Location
- Berkshire
Not my experience really, I know I'm going to sequence Kerb and Crawler and my OSR crops have been clean of BG, better than Beans usually as they're more open and allow a bit in early spring and the Kerb is compromised by being a pre em and is normally put on a month too early.
Slugs were an issue when we drilled in mid Sept, drilling in mid October seems to have stopped them, none applied at all this autumn.
Spring beans are probably the worst break for BG control, absolutely zero control !!
- Location
- Berkshire
This was in the worst BG field here that had crop lost to it it in '15, I left this little triangle with no treatments when it was osr in '18
The control was fantastic across the field but this corner shows the level we are having to contend with.
Its one of the advantages of being able to travel here, in the past on heavier land farms Kerb had to go on as there was a risk of not travelling again, while here it's generally done in December, followed by Crawler in Jan
The control was fantastic across the field but this corner shows the level we are having to contend with.
Its one of the advantages of being able to travel here, in the past on heavier land farms Kerb had to go on as there was a risk of not travelling again, while here it's generally done in December, followed by Crawler in Jan
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Normally we would see BG from the cracked ground in spring.
I shall be growing some again this year even though I lost all of my rape this year,it will be planted around august bank holiday providing their is enough moisture.My mistake this year was not getting it in before the rain we had after the bank holiday and it just sat there for 4 weeks in backing temperatures not moving then the rain came and never stopped killing the small seedlings,anything that was drilled early (first week of august) around here has been ripped up because of the larvae and most that was drilled at the end of the month got water logged but it’s still the best break crop by far and worth the investment imho