Is Boris Johnson our Nero?

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Bit of a typo there, you obviously meant hero.... :ROFLMAO:

What has he done wrong as such ? shouda grounded planes sooner, shoulda brought in lockdown sooner, shouda kept lockdown going longer.......but driven by public opinion by those fussing about the economy. Plus he was at deaths door for 2 weeks. Under the circumstances I think he's done OK.
 
Should have listened to WHO advice and brought in lockdown and incoming self isolation long before there were 335 daily deaths and the virus had already spread to all corners of the UK (part of the herd immunity project) - Should have had an effective Deputy PM for any emergency situation. - Should have put health before wealth (which elsewhere had the effect of being best for both).

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but actively going against WHO advice and seeking out CV-19 patients to shake hands with will not go down as his finest hour.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Is Boris Johnson our Nero?

If you think he's showing poor leadership, just look north of the Border.
'Old Nicki' moans that Boris is doing nothing, then waits for two weeks to do her own gold plated version of SFA.
is doing nothing bad then ?
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Trouble is the science and health experts can't agree on anything. Face masks or no. 1M or 2M distance. Schools have shut and been amalgamated for 40 years. If we still had village schools with 6 pupils, isolating would be easier. Not so with classroom sizes of 30 kids, in schools with 2000 inmates. How the f**k will they isolate in the corridors ?
This is the hand Boris has been dealt. Frankly I can't see schools and a lot of businesses being back till normal till Corvid is over with. Unprecedented times. It's all very well being critical with the benefit of hindsight. Have a day in Boris's shoes.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
is doing nothing bad then ?

Judge for yourself:

Somewhere in the region of 4000 dead, around 1861 of those in care homes. Lots of evidence from survivors in the media that they were admitted to hospital with non covid issues but dumped in wards with covid patients, before being returned to care homes to pass on the virus.

The numbers and scenarios are glaringly similar to the UK per 100,000 population as a whole, but thats no apology to the families of the dead. Trying to deflect attention from the devolved Scottish administration to Boris and the UK wide death rate is utterly contemptible.

National Records of Scotland
Coronavirus deaths by setting
  • 47% in care homes
  • 44% in hospitals
  • 8% at home or in non-institutional setting
  • 1% in other institutions
The figures show that as of June 7 there had been 1,861 deaths in care homes when Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, higher than the 1,854 fatalities in hospitals.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Is Boris Johnson our Nero?

If you think he's showing poor leadership, just look north of the Border.
'Old Nicki' moans that Boris is doing nothing, then waits for two weeks to do her own gold plated version of SFA.

Whilst we would all agree that hindsight is .. er .. 2020, as soon as it was evident it was coming our way, the UK government should have declared a State of Emergency with the necessary legislation to override devolved governments. Now we have the ludicrous situation of dentists not being allowed to practice in Wales until 2021 whilst their English counterparts can start up next week to give just one example

Also with SoE powers Johnson could have stopped these protests at a stroke (never minding the counter protests scheduled for this coming weekend at the behest of Tommy Robinson)
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Judge for yourself:

Somewhere in the region of 4000 dead, around 1861 of those in care homes. Lots of evidence from survivors in the media that they were admitted to hospital with non covid issues but dumped in wards with covid patients, before being returned to care homes to pass on the virus.

The numbers and scenarios are glaringly similar to the UK per 100,000 population as a whole, but thats no apology to the families of the dead. Trying to deflect attention from the devolved Scottish administration to Boris and the UK wide death rate is utterly contemptible.

National Records of Scotland
Coronavirus deaths by setting
  • 47% in care homes
  • 44% in hospitals
  • 8% at home or in non-institutional setting
  • 1% in other institutions
The figures show that as of June 7 there had been 1,861 deaths in care homes when Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, higher than the 1,854 fatalities in hospitals.
and yet there are those that shout from the roof tops that both boris and nick done to much and country will be on its arse for years and more will be dead owing to doing something than doing nothing, so I don't know, I wouldn't have wanted to be in charge that's for sure
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Whilst we would all agree that hindsight is .. er .. 2020, as soon as it was evident it was coming our way, the UK government should have declared a State of Emergency with the necessary legislation to override devolved governments. Now we have the ludicrous situation of dentists not being allowed to practice in Wales until 2021 whilst their English counterparts can start up next week to give just one example

Also with SoE powers Johnson could have stopped these protests at a stroke (never minding the counter protests scheduled for this coming weekend at the behest of Tommy Robinson)

Well, I suppose there’s no football to riot at ?‍♂️
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Whilst we would all agree that hindsight is .. er .. 2020, as soon as it was evident it was coming our way, the UK government should have declared a State of Emergency with the necessary legislation to override devolved governments. Now we have the ludicrous situation of dentists not being allowed to practice in Wales until 2021 whilst their English counterparts can start up next week to give just one example

Also with SoE powers Johnson could have stopped these protests at a stroke (never minding the counter protests scheduled for this coming weekend at the behest of Tommy Robinson)
if you need a filling those home filling kits are quite good, the fecking thing gave me some jip for a few days though
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
and yet there are those that shout from the roof tops that both boris and nick done to much and country will be on its arse for years and more will be dead owing to doing something than doing nothing, so I don't know, I wouldn't have wanted to be in charge that's for sure

Yes but Johnson is the invisible man.

15 minutes of tub thumping whilst going around in circles is hardly leadership in times of national crisis.
 

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