Guns on farms

Wooly · Jun 18, 2020

I have spoken with three different farmers this week that have all admitted they sleep with a gun by their bed ,due to the shocking increase of crime in our area.

Is this just a local thing or becoming widespread ?

Are we about to get another Tony Martin case of shooting a burgler because the Police do fudge all about rural crime ?

So much crime is happening in the County where the Police have got CCTV, number plates and tracking device evidence, yet don't want to respond !

Bald Rick · Jun 18, 2020

Would they use them?

Personally I think unless you’re prepared to shoot someone, you’re better off keeping it locked away otherwise you might find you’re on the receiving end of your own weapon

welger · Jun 18, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Would they use them?

Personally I think unless you’re prepared to shoot someone, you’re better off keeping it locked away otherwise you might find you’re on the receiving end of your own weapon

my dad has his ready if I forgot to tell that theres a cow cavling and come back in the night ,ive had it pointed at me.and its loaded

yellow belly · Jun 18, 2020

an Irish police man was murdered with his own gun this week
My gun stays in the cabinet I value my freedom and gun licence

Agrivator · Jun 18, 2020

I have a battle-axe.

JD6920s · Jun 18, 2020

Wooly said:
I have spoken with three different farmers this week that have all admitted they sleep with a gun by their bed ,due to the shocking increase of crime in our area.

Is this just a local thing or becoming widespread ?

Are we about to get another Tony Martin case of shooting a burgler because the Police do fudge all about rural crime ?

So much crime is happening in the County where the Police have got CCTV, number plates and tracking device evidence, yet don't want to respond !

It’s one thing someone breaking in, they may not be armed, but if you have a gun to hand you have to be prepared to use it, as if they overpower you you have now got a burglar with a deadly weapon who would probably rather use it than get caught by the police, sadly if and when the police turn up, (and you have not been shot) you will most likely find yourself in more trouble than the criminals who forced entry into your property!

Bald Rick · Jun 18, 2020

welger said:
my dad has his ready if I forgot to tell that theres a cow cavling and come back in the night ,ive had it pointed at me.and its loaded

Jeez. Get a new dad

Phil P · Jun 18, 2020

I sleep next to the Mrs, I pity the fool that breaks into my house!

HolzKopf · Jun 18, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Would they use them?
Personally I think unless you’re prepared to shoot someone, you’re better off keeping it locked away otherwise you might find you’re on the receiving end of your own weapon

yellow belly said:
an Irish police man was murdered with his own gun this week
My gun stays in the cabinet I value my freedom and gun licence

Both posts above are correct. Sleeping with a gun 'by the side of your bed' is a romantic notion. It's illegal and stupid. You risk an innocent person, perhaps a child killing a sibling or itself or another person. Do these 'gunslingers' put them in their cabinets when they get up?

All of us that live in rural areas, some remote, some by villages are threatened by crime on a daily basis. But hanging a 12 bore out the window if there are noises in the yard is foolish unless it's unloaded and you are going to shout 'bang'. You may say that the police will not respond to rural crime - and you may be right in that if the manpower is unavailable - but the day an ARV turns up at your house and finds firearms not stored properly or worse you have discharged one at or near someone in response to a threat, then that's the day that your Certificate and FAC disappears and the handcuffs are around your wrists.

This isn't 'Heartbeat'

76masseyman · Jun 18, 2020

I’m sure my grandad said he had a couple of cartridges handy that had wheat in them, just in case, could that be right ?
Obviously that was many moons ago.

MRT · Jun 18, 2020

We are lucky enough to own a highly trained GSD. The great thing about a dog like this is they are always loaded and cannot be turned on you. They are great friends and detect and deter criminals like nothing else. They should be safe with children (ours stars in films that the children make complete with wigs and dresses), and passive/friendly to all non-violent guests. I would never want to be without one.

TechWise · Jun 18, 2020

I believe in the eyes of the law, having a gun near you in anticipation of a burglary would be seen as premeditated murder if you actually used it.

76masseyman · Jun 18, 2020

MRT said:
We are lucky enough to own a highly trained GSD. The great thing about a dog like this is they are always loaded and cannot be turned on you. They are great friends and detect and deter criminals like nothing else. They should be safe with children (ours stars in films that the children make complete with wigs and dresses), and passive/friendly to all non-violent guests. I would never want to be without one.

We have geese, not trained at all, but certainly know strangers.

Kidds · Jun 18, 2020

If I was that worried in my own home I would move.

Kidds · Jun 18, 2020

76masseyman said:
We have geese, not trained at all, but certainly know strangers.

Fox killed 10 of mine a week or so back. I was in a static 10 yards away and heard nothing.

ollie989898 · Jun 18, 2020

I would never have a firearm unsecured in the house, the risk to the kids is too great.

If you have a break in, lean out of the window and shout that you are armed. They will probably leg it but in doing so they will be posing no threat to you.

Shooting a fleeing intruder will land you in jail as I understand it.

I don't believe a dog represents that much of a hazard to intruders. They can be disabled if you know how.

traadilooar · Jun 18, 2020

It’s wise to keep a spade with the gun

MRT · Jun 18, 2020

ollie989898 said:
I don't believe a dog represents that much of a hazard to intruders. They can be disabled if you know how.

The dogs we have owned over the years have certainly varied from 'ard looking useless pot-lickers to seriously hazardous to intruder health. The seriously hazardous one was called upon twice, fortunately none of the gentlemen were sufficiently well prepared to disable him. Its a deterent, not everyone is Chuck Norris!

ollie989898 · Jun 18, 2020

MRT said:
The dogs we have owned over the years have certainly varied from 'ard looking useless pot-lickers to seriously hazardous to intruder health. The seriosuly hazardous one was called upon twice, fortunately none of the gentlemen were sufficiently well prepared to disable him. Its a deterent, not everyone is Chuck Norris!

You dog, does he go for the face, throat or arm or what?

In military circles you just let the dog grab your forearm and then wallop it over the head with all your might using your free hand.

Happy hillbily · Jun 18, 2020

Happened to a friend of mine in Oz a few years ago.

Farmer who used gun to protect family has rifle confiscated

A farmer who confronted a knife-wielding intruder entering his family home with a rifle has had his guns confiscated by police.

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