Vredo direct drill

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
That one you have with closer spacing is it more likely to block , I spoke to the irish guy salesman , he said the majority are sold with wider spacing and they dont recommend cross drilling
Never blocked it yet as they are staggered, yeah the salesman seems to think it’s not necessary to cross drill but 24 row machine gives a 5inch spacing which is a big lump of bare land for weed to ingress......despite what the salesman tell you. It’s main fault is penetration in a dry time ( we have 1000kg on ours ). Experience says the more rows the better and it’s pretty much standard practice to double pass full grass
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reseed with a wide spacing drill. If it was not beneficial why would the market leaders like Moore and now Erth produce a narrow drill. Don’t talk to the sales guys talk to the local drilling guys who will have been there and got the t shirt
 

MrA.G.

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
Moore went backwards on their last drill, previous models had total ground following with the press wheel as a depth guide, new ones just hang from a solid 3m beam. Old ones could drill rig and furrow no bother new ones can’t, but cost comes into these things as Moore buy in almost all the components including hoppers and frames. Ungreasable bearing been a nightmare here in the past another cost cut but I gather Moore have sold out to Agrilinc.
Moore are made a few miles from here, I really don’t think everything you say is true!
Yes the hoppers are bought in, but the frames are made by a steel fabricator to Moore’s requirement, they aren’t just a ‘off the shelf frame’
 

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Moore are made a few miles from here, I really don’t think everything you say is true!
Yes the hoppers are bought in, but the frames are made by a steel fabricator to Moore’s requirement, they aren’t just a ‘off the shelf frame’
What I meant was they are not made in house, Sam told me that himself. Have they sold out to Agrilinc or just gossip?
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Never blocked it yet as they are staggered, yeah the salesman seems to think it’s not necessary to cross drill but 24 row machine gives a 5inch spacing which is a big lump of bare land for weed to ingress......despite what the salesman tell you. It’s main fault is penetration in a dry time ( we have 1000kg on ours ). Experience says the more rows the better and it’s pretty much standard practice to double pass full grassView attachment 888919 reseed with a wide spacing drill. If it was not beneficial why would the market leaders like Moore and now Erth produce a narrow drill. Don’t talk to the sales guys talk to the local drilling guys who will have been there and got the t shirt
That looks like it's been crossed. Do you cross drill with yours
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
That looks like it's been crossed. Do you cross drill with yours
That’s with my Moore unidrill wide spacing 22row, don’t need to with 32 row Erth. To provide a viable alternative to ploughing a double pass is too expensive nowadays hence the drive for 32 row machines. For arable or brassicas the 24 row are fine but overseeding or full reseed with grass the more rows the better. You decide which you do the most of, ideally you need two drills as there are compromises with each machine.
 

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Drilling and seed supply will work well together.....two bites of the cherry and you have control of what your sowing so get better chance of success.?
 

Speedstar

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Location
Scottish Borders
Anyone any experience of these drills for drilling brassicas into burnt down grassland and redrilling grass ?
Don’t know of any in this part of the world so no experience at all
We had one on demo last year & drill some rape with it in to burnt down grass land , it did a good job but the price of the machine & what you got for doing the job with it did not stack up so we did not buy one but have a guy on the look out for a good used one for me.
 

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I must be stupid but if hes putting seen on that it's a contradiction of everything I've been told . Unless I missed something View attachment 888938View attachment 888939
No your not.....waste of time and money.
I was once asked by a local machinery dealer who supplies a certain brand of grass Harrow to accompany them on a series of overseeding roadshows. I initially agreed as it could have been a good source of seed sales tbh, but after talking to their sales team it was apparent very quickly that they had done no trial work with the machine at all themselves or even paid someone independent to evaluate the success of the machine. So what was I going to say to the farmers when it didn’t work and the seeds got the blame, they were going for the easy buck. However some companies such as Moore or Erth have good advice on offer, pictures of crops established and detailed methods for using the drill, they have proven the success of the machine.
 

Clever Dic

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Location
Melton
I have a 20 year old+ Moore Sam built for us..32 coulter in a 4m fixed frame and accord top and over the years had demos of various D drills and not one made me think of selling the Moore. Tried the Vredo alongside a few years back and could not match the penetration and when up the germination was not so good as well. With 32 in 4m we never cross drill but I would add it is always for cutting not grazing. It has become like Trigger's broom.?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
No your not.....waste of time and money.
I was once asked by a local machinery dealer who supplies a certain brand of grass Harrow to accompany them on a series of overseeding roadshows. I initially agreed as it could have been a good source of seed sales tbh, but after talking to their sales team it was apparent very quickly that they had done no trial work with the machine at all themselves or even paid someone independent to evaluate the success of the machine. So what was I going to say to the farmers when it didn’t work and the seeds got the blame, they were going for the easy buck. However some companies such as Moore or Erth have good advice on offer, pictures of crops established and detailed methods for using the drill, they have proven the success of the machine.
That guy from Erth drills is a hive of information. He worked in New Zealand for 15 years on Direct Drilling . He clearly knows his stuff and is happy to help
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
That guy from Erth drills is a hive of information. He worked in New Zealand for 15 years on Direct Drilling . He clearly knows his stuff and is happy to help
I don’t know him just deal with @Tractor bob who is just up the road but again he is very knowledgeable and helpful, no regrets so far only issue was I some very heavy yellow clay last backend when it first come but most of the corn in that area didn’t come as it was so wet. Gone well this spring since we have got plenty weight on. One of the first job was drilling this field with IRG end September and again photoed Mar. 1st
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