muleman
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Yes its before my time but i was taking a stab and saying 1960 for mules....but definitely by 1965 they would be on the ground.
Broken mouthed ewes on twitter
- Thread starter Northumberland
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- Easter ross
Autumn?
I don’t like having many left after July..
Even with 320 ewe lambs lambing this April I’ve only got 220 lambs left on farm after weaning
I think people need to go more closed flocks if they want to continue with mules with good longevity. I buy in 50 glamorgan welsh Ewe lambs every other year From the same farm. I put my BFL rams on them to produce my own mules. The welsh ewes are superb and will do well on the rough parts of the farm..
you’re in the land of milk and honey where the grass only takes a rest for Xmas day. They should be gone by May
I was talking to a man when I was 19 about this, his advice, if your breeding your own females, make sure the ram you use has 4 good feet and walks well, and make sure his teeth, at yearling stage are less than three eights of an inch in length, breed etc is up to you, but I've stuck to this since, ever get a ewe broke, before 6 or 7,might wear down but still got teeth, I have a 10 year old Beulah ewe, full set of teeth, looks old, but has a lamb on her which is her 21st, only get fed in bad weather, hay, crystalyx from 8 weeks out, I should add I would like a couple thousand like her.
When I started out, a few years ago now before tags, I use to buy broken mouthed Welsh ewes, 5 percent always turned out to be yearlings, culled as broke, but hadn't cut there teeth.
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- Cheshire
With a crap gob he shouldn't be going anywhere but too kill!! A self respecting tup breeder shouldn't sell a tup too breed unless it's right. No wonder breeds go down the pan!
muleman
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As a fella once said to me, well more than one fella..." how can 2 breeds as rubbish as a leicester and swaledale produce something as good as the mule"With a crap gob he shouldn't be going anywhere but too kill!! A self respecting tup breeder shouldn't sell a tup too breed unless it's right. No wonder breeds go down the pan!
Hybrid vigour must be the answer!
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- Dumfries & Galloway
As a fella once said to me, well more than one fella..." how can 2 breeds as rubbish as a leicester and swaledale produce something as good as the mule"
Hybrid vigour must be the answer!
That's unfair on the Swale
As a fella once said to me, well more than one fella..." how can 2 breeds as rubbish as a leicester and swaledale produce something as good as the mule"
Hybrid vigour must be the answer!
Yes, and the more inbred the parents the bigger the bounce.
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muleman
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With a crap gob he shouldn't be going anywhere but too kill!! A self respecting tup breeder shouldn't sell a tup too breed unless it's right. No wonder breeds go down the pan!
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Thats probably where mule breeding is an art all of its own.....you can, and often do, find that the ugliest looking leicester tup with a back like a camel and teeth you could hang a bucket on gets the best mule sheep....and sheep with good teeth at that!
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Thats probably where mule breeding is an art all of its own.....you can, and often do, find that the ugliest looking leicester tup with a back like a camel and teeth you could hang a bucket on gets the best mule sheep....and sheep with good teeth at that!
That`s a sad state of affairs when "good friends" feel like that - can just about believe it though. People must be allowed to try something different and if they can make it work well hats off to them! Sometimes we can all learn something from someone bold enough to try something new instead of just doing what everyone else does purely because "we`ve alus done it that way"....
We might all have to look to our calculators by the time Boris and Co have finished.....
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
If terminal sired lambs and maternal sired lambs have similar growth and grading, then I would say that at least one of those sire groups is being chosen poorly.
NZDan
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- Location
- Broomfield, New Zealand
Dorper growth is terrible as well.
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- Montgomeryshire
NZDan
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- Location
- Broomfield, New Zealand
Why would he even bother to register them? Just get on with breeding them with out registering them.i know someone that imported some from SA at great expense ,feet were v good (at least compared to uk stock and were imported for that reason ) , uk society refused to register them
NZDan
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- Location
- Broomfield, New Zealand
Yes, they are very hardy. Well very hardy mostly, but when they get sick they just die.But apart from bad feet, poor shedding and terrible growth, are they ok?
Lamb survival is very good and ewe behavior at lambing is very good. I've a handfull of DorperXFinTexel ewes and they are exceptional ewes.
clod hopper
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- Location
- SHREWSBURY, shropshire
Is there any research which Dorper is the hardest Black headed or White? Also is the White larger than the Black headed?
Woolless
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- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
I think some of this ill feeling is that people don't like to have that seed of doubt planted in their mind that what they are doing is not the 'best' or most profitable course of action, despite having done it for years. If you're breaking your back taking wool off sheep only to sell it for a pittance and some smartarse over the fence doesn't need to bother...That`s a sad state of affairs when "good friends" feel like that - can just about believe it though. People must be allowed to try something different and if they can make it work well hats off to them! Sometimes we can all learn something from someone bold enough to try something new instead of just doing what everyone else does purely because "we`ve alus done it that way"....
We might all have to look to our calculators by the time Boris and Co have finished.....
Woolless
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- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Thats probably where mule breeding is an art all of its own.....you can, and often do, find that the ugliest looking leicester tup with a back like a camel and teeth you could hang a bucket on gets the best mule sheep....and sheep with good teeth at that!With a crap gob he shouldn't be going anywhere but too kill!! A self respecting tup breeder shouldn't sell a tup too breed unless it's right. No wonder breeds go down the pan!
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But who the hell would use a tup like that in the first place, if it looks hellish and has a bad mouth?
I can’t help it, when I see Easycares on good ground I just think it’s a waste.
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But who the hell would use a tup like that in the first place, if it looks hellish and has a bad mouth?
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It wasn’t like that bought and spending a lot of cash on something bends the mind “Expensive Tup Syndrome”. Mind you, there is also “cheap lamb syndrome” where you don’t fully back yourself to use an obvious bargain because others didn’t make it expensive enough for you. You can’t win.
But who the hell would use a tup like that in the first place, if it looks hellish and has a bad mouth?
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It wasn’t like that bought and spending a lot of cash on something bends the mind “Expensive Tup Syndrome”. Mind you, there is also “cheap lamb syndrome” where you don’t fully back yourself to use an obvious bargain because others didn’t make it expensive enough for you. You can’t win.