Steal and concrete costs for silage clamps.

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
is 6 inch a big enough panel? And how do you find the 20s? Im
Getting conflicted views. I was sold on the panels because it gives a straight edge. Contractor says he’s seen some real disasters with panels and says go for A walls which are moveable but unless the steels and concrete are going to be double the panels they’re a lot more expensive!

I’ve 20’x1.2x.150 panels on my outside walls and have 3.6m high movable rocket walls for dividing,if there’s a disaster with panels it’s because of skimping on concrete or steel for the upright or massively overloading the panels.

I was always a fan of mass shuttered walls (have my own shutters,don’t use them anymore) panels are way faster and give you a bit more of flexibility in the future.
 
Location
West Wales
I’ve 20’x1.2x.150 panels on my outside walls and have 3.6m high movable rocket walls for dividing,if there’s a disaster with panels it’s because of skimping on concrete or steel for the upright or massively overloading the panels.

I was always a fan of mass shuttered walls (have my own shutters,don’t use them anymore) panels are way faster and give you a bit more of flexibility in the future.

how do you rate the rocket walls? How did they compare cost with by the time you’ve put all the concrete and steels in for panels?
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
how do you rate the rocket walls? How did they compare cost with by the time you’ve put all the concrete and steels in for panels?

I like the rocket walls as they give me flexibility,currently I’ve moved them the opposite way across my clamp so I can use up my older silage,downside is you haven’t to push into them without a load behind them as the move out of line,you soon get used to doing it,also they are heavy somewhere around 3.5t not every loader can move them.

Also have A panels from craven concrete,lighter but not as good and I can’t see them lasting as long.

Six years since I bought my rocket walls compared to panels at £266 each this year,I’ll have to find the bill.
 
Good for him.

Can he pour a silo like the one earlier in thread? I’ve put down cubicles 20 years ago 6 or 8 at a time diy mixing. Saving was small. Work was difficult. Wouldn’t do it again.
I don't know what he can or can't do...
I am sure I will be corrected if wrong
Readymix firms buy materials in bulk Quantities and a high percentage of actual cost of concrete covers the self
employed driver and his lorry which he has to maintain rigorously and a lot goes to the actual company who own the drum and I would say a certain amount goes to cover someone else's bad debt
Also on a similar note I know that animal feed suppliers at least double their money on feed stuff
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
I like the rocket walls as they give me flexibility,currently I’ve moved them the opposite way across my clamp so I can use up my older silage,downside is you haven’t to push into them without a load behind them as the move out of line,you soon get used to doing it,also they are heavy somewhere around 3.5t not every loader can move them.

Also have A panels from craven concrete,lighter but not as good and I can’t see them lasting as long.

Six years since I bought my rocket walls compared to panels at £266 each this year,I’ll have to find the bill.

£286/rocket,so £1430 to do 20’ versus £798 plus steel for (150mm) 6” panels,can only load 1side unless you slot them into a girder.
I could still get the rockets for under £300 and there 3.2t not 3.5t as I posted.
Was on for doing one like that until a structural engineer got involved, back to earth banks it is.

It’s easy don’t involve one,my 12” shuttered wall clamp was built in 1982 and it’s had silage 25’ high in it with 15t shovel on it,it’s never moved a bit.
 
Location
West Wales
I like the rocket walls as they give me flexibility,currently I’ve moved them the opposite way across my clamp so I can use up my older silage,downside is you haven’t to push into them without a load behind them as the move out of line,you soon get used to doing it,also they are heavy somewhere around 3.5t not every loader can move them.

Also have A panels from craven concrete,lighter but not as good and I can’t see them lasting as long.

Six years since I bought my rocket walls compared to panels at £266 each this year,I’ll have to find the bill.

whars the difference between rocket walls and A walls?
 

Will Wilson

Member
Location
Essex
We supply this vertical wall system in the UK, the panels are rated for 40 tonne compacting tractors up to the edge, no steel to rot, no leaks, no foundations, instant install, will outlive several generations.

Always keen to see other peoples experiences.




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Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
just so we’re clear here. You turned up to a level site supplied the steel and the panels? Erected those for him and left the floor for someone else? How many cube did you put in the holes?

just so we’re clear here. You turned up to a level site supplied the steel and the panels? Erected those for him and left the floor for someone else? How many cube did you put in the holes?
We concreted floor as well but paid for no concrete mesh or stone the apron around the side was done later by others
 

Fergieman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
We supply this vertical wall system in the UK, the panels are rated for 40 tonne compacting tractors up to the edge, no steel to rot, no leaks, no foundations, instant install, will outlive several generations.

Always keen to see other peoples experiences.




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I priced this system before doing our pits and it was haulage that killed the job for them. They were coming from Holland. I did like the idea of the U shaped panel as a centre wall so you have somewhere safe to walk between the pits.
 

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