Triton direct seed drill

warksfarmer · Aug 20, 2020

Hjwise said:
Has anyone sensible tried & tested the drill and offered a balanced view on it? I haven’t seen many used drills advertised which I presume means either that the users are happy with it or the resale value is so poor it’s not worth selling. This can’t be said for a number of strip till drills.

No yield results yet as it’s not quite ready but the crops do look good to be fair to it. having now used one for spring crops, some stewardship strips and recently some cover crops, it does what it says on the tin and put seeds in the ground covered in soil.
We couldn’t cover seeds properly with a claydon or 750a.
The Mzuri did cover seeds but the front tine is excessive.
We ended up buying a Horsch ST and converted it to Bourgault points but again covering the seeds was an issue on heavier soils. Probably the best out the lot though.

The Triton covers the seed very easily due to the rear set of blades and is relatively minimal disturbance compared to the likes of claydon and mzuri but isn’t in 750’s league. See pics on Saturday just gone of how it left stubble after planting a cover crop. I’m finding it quite power hungry though on heavier soils. A 3m is making 230hp work very hard at times. Moving the seed hopper from above the drill to the front of the tractor helps a bit b

Triton are excellent to deal with regarding backup.

All in all very happy and it was far the cheapest on the market when we bought.

warksfarmer · Sep 2, 2020

Still not harvested yet due to weather but the cover crop is doing ok. Slugs about.

Alistair Nelson · Sep 2, 2020

warksfarmer said:
Still not harvested yet due to weather but the cover crop is doing ok. Slugs about.

What sort of configuration and size of triton are you running Lee and is this your only drill now?

warksfarmer · Sep 3, 2020

Alistair Nelson said:
What sort of configuration and size of triton are you running Lee and is this your only drill now?

After much deliberation stuck with a 3m working width purely because we don’t take the seed to field so need to run back and forth. Glad we did because in wet going it makes a 240hp tractor work very hard.

Ours was the first I think that you can run the hopper either on the drill or on the front of the tractor. Swapping takes about an hour on your own. I prefer the hopper on the drill but you’ll need a big front weight block. 1t isn’t enough.

We did have a Bourgault converted ST4 as well but now sold it as the Triton is a better drill in my view. The tine design is extremely clever. Still got the old combi drills and I’ve a contractor with a 750a I can call on if required.

The plan with the Triton is to run a front mounted topper and go direct into cover crops on the lighter soils.

Spud · Sep 6, 2020

It'll be a beast of a topper to weigh more than a ton at 3m width!

Luke Cropwalker · Sep 6, 2020

Spud said:
It'll be a beast of a topper to weigh more than a ton at 3m width!

Don't forget it will be a split hopper big enough to apply fairy dust at a rate of at least 1cwt/ac down the spout with the magic bean seed.

Spud · Sep 6, 2020

The big question, of course, is how much #AminoA has @warksfarmer applied?

Jackall · Sep 6, 2020

I’ve have at times taken the pee out of the claims of the drill. Especially with the snake oil claims of amino a. It would be interesting to here from the posters who have used them this year their yields.( most uk farms have had disappointed yields which ever establishedment used. i just wondered if 7t ha in a low cost in a “normal year is worth a punt. my biggest concern is they are trying to sell a pigtail cultivator frame with staight tines and a fancy foot below an accord seeder for silly money. Perhaps they should sell just the tine and foot and we could do our adapting.

Sprayer 1 · Sep 7, 2020

Jackall said:
I’ve have at times taken the pee out of the claims of the drill. Especially with the snake oil claims of amino a. It would be interesting to here from the posters who have used them this year their yields.( most uk farms have had disappointed yields which ever establishedment used. i just wondered if 7t ha in a low cost in a “normal year is worth a punt. my biggest concern is they are trying to sell a pigtail cultivator frame with staight tines and a fancy foot below an accord seeder for silly money. Perhaps they should sell just the tine and foot and we could do our adapting.

I certainly would have a set for the simtech. Don't think that will happen though as they do bang on about the patent in every advert I have seen.

traineefarmer · Sep 7, 2020

It will certainly be nice to read a thoughtful, measured and balanced review in this thread. I think I've said before that I like the concept, but trying to work out what the machine is capable of from Triton's crap advertising, RJH's incomprehensible posts and the sometimes hilarious, but mostly repetitive trolling is driving me to madness.

warksfarmer · Sep 7, 2020

Spud said:
The big question, of course, is how much #AminoA has @warksfarmer applied?

None

warksfarmer · Sep 7, 2020

Spud said:
It'll be a beast of a topper to weigh more than a ton at 3m width!

We will have to use wafer weights as well.

warksfarmer · Sep 7, 2020

Starting to cut today hopefully so give me a couple of days to put stuff across the weighbridge and we will see. Generally the crops do look ok though.

Hjwise · Sep 7, 2020

warksfarmer said:
Starting to cut today hopefully so give me a couple of days to put stuff across the weighbridge and we will see. Generally the crops do look ok though.

It’s good to hear straight forward responses. Does the side press concept work on looser cultivated soil? Or would you just roll given no packer?

warksfarmer · Sep 10, 2020

The results are in. All over a ministry tested weighbridge. Not adjusted for weight loss after drying though.

All the same variety, all drilled within 4 days of each other and all identically treated fert, seed rate, chems wise. No snake oils used.

1. pigtailed x 2, combi drilled, rolled 4.5t/ha @ 17.2% moisture.

2. pigtailed x 2, horsch (Bourgault VOS) drilled, rolled 4t/ha @ 16% moisture.

3. pigtailed x 2, Triton drilled, rolled, 5.5t/ha @ 18.8% moisture.

4. Triton direct, rolled, 6.12t/ha @ 15.77% moisture.

5. Triton direct (after cover crop) 6.03t/ha @ 15.53% moisture.

6. Topdown (sept 19), Triton 6.1t/ha, rolled @ 16.7% moisture.

7. Topdown (sept 19), KV tine drill, 4t/ha @ 18% moisture.

nick... · Sep 11, 2020

Thank you for sharing that @warksfarmer .i plough disc and combi dril and roll everything and hoping my wheat will do 3 ton acre but still some to go yet
nick...

Spencer · Sep 11, 2020

warksfarmer said:
The results are in. All over a ministry tested weighbridge. Not adjusted for weight loss after drying though.

All the same variety, all drilled within 4 days of each other and all identically treated fert, seed rate, chems wise. No snake oils used.

1. pigtailed x 2, combi drilled, rolled 4.5t/ha @ 17.2% moisture.

2. pigtailed x 2, horsch (Bourgault VOS) drilled, rolled 4t/ha @ 16% moisture.

3. pigtailed x 2, Triton drilled, rolled, 5.5t/ha @ 18.8% moisture.

4. Triton direct, rolled, 6.12t/ha @ 15.77% moisture.

5. Triton direct (after cover crop) 6.03t/ha @ 15.53% moisture.

6. Topdown (sept 19), Triton 6.1t/ha, rolled @ 16.7% moisture.

7. Topdown (sept 19), KV tine drill, 4t/ha @ 18% moisture.

It appears Triton dries your crops as well

warksfarmer · Sep 11, 2020

Spencer said:
It appears Triton dries your crops as well

Just the sequence things were cut.

Pigless · Sep 11, 2020

warksfarmer said:
Just the sequence things were cut.

Interesting results, would you agree it's the moisture retention from going direct in a dry spring and the loosening below the seed allowing the roots down to moisture. I should think your pleased with your drill choice!

warksfarmer · Sep 11, 2020

Had a few messages asking why did the Triton yield better. So instead of copying and pasting the same answer, I honestly don’t know.
As I’ve mentioned a few times for me the closing blade is what makes the drill different to anything else on the market because it really does work. We’ve tried most drills now and closing the slot is the biggest issue on the heavier clay soils. The Triton doesn’t suffer with this.

That said it doesn’t leave the best finish from a consolidation point of view compared anything with a press wheel.

I’d like to see a trailed Triton with a row of Horsch rear packer wheels after the closing tines, followed by a harrow. I think that would really finish the drill off.

Hopper capacity is limited. The weaving hopper is supposed to be 1500kg, but in reality you can only put a tonne in unless emptying it fully each time.

All in all I’m happy with it.

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