EU threatens to ban UK ag and food exports to them

manhill

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YOU don't do International deals. The elected Government does them on your behalf. Whether YOU agree with them or not is irrelevant. The current government is trying to break a deal they made only a few months ago, but the actual timing is not as relevant as the principle of doing a deal, any deal, and breaking it. Is that how you live your life? Your business?
Besides which, the very people that are going back on their word now are the ones that signed the deal and recommended it to their constituents as a great deal only a couple of months ago.

Is there any part of that you just do not comprehend?

Was this not a wishy washy worded agreement with parts left deliberately open to interpretation?
 
With China, I would say you get what you pay for. If you want cheap - they can make it cheap - but as there are a lot of very clever people over there, I would also believe that if you went to them for a robust and reliable item with the specs you required, then they have the nouse to do that too...
China has a reputation of crap - but it not all their fault, and equally not all should be laid at their doorstep. We and many others go their for the cheap labour and low prices, and do not actually care about how it is made if we were to be honest - only how much profit we can screw out of everything we outsource there..

Toe be fair, the Chinese are just playing the game like anyone else. If you want cheap but carp, they will do it. If you want high end gear, they can do that as well. Taiwan is a big big producer of microprocessors, arguably the most complex devices ever produced by man (they are also very reliable given the volume of them produced). They have been doing it for years and are very skilled. Fortunately the bulk of the actual innovation in these industries are done elsewhere in places like the UK and USA.

I'm not sure I see the importation of cheap pork or chicken into the UK as an issue. It won't lose the UK pork or poultry farmers any consumers because the people already buying the stuff from Brazil, Thailand or Denmark or wherever are buying it because it is dirt cheap anyway and they don't buy UK product because it's more expensive. That being the case, let those same people eat all the chlorinated chicken they want, it makes no odds to me.
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
I don't think the government values any farmer until there's a food shortage then were the best thing since sliced bread, just don't see the point in importing food that we can produce here, we should only import things that we can't produce. If food in the supermarkets was say 75% British produce with no alternative for Brazilian beef or let's say chlorinated chicken then surely we wouldn't need hand outs from government
Not sure if you understand the main motivation behind any import/exporting In our capitalist's economy the government only sets the framework, traders do not wake up and think, we can produce that commodity in this country so there is no point importing it.. they think if I buy this product here for £x, my costs would be £y and I can sell it there for £z then if x+y<z then I can turn a profit. As an industry we are going to have to adapt to competing with the threat of increasing cheap imports and with out government hand outs.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
You seem to have real difficulty with
Maths 43 is not "a vast majority" Simple question for you, do we export more to Europe than the rest of the world?
it was not a maths mistake it was an English mistake... it should have read we export more to Europe than any other trading block in the rest of the world.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
What he said was the vast majority of our exports go to europe, that is not bad English it's a lie

Majority is a word with a very specific but often misunderstood definition. Many people equate it with plurality, which is wrong but understandable.

Needless to say, a huge percentage of our trade is with the EU - much more than anywhere else, and too big a percentage to be playing games with, in my opinion.
 

tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
it was not a maths mistake it was an English mistake... it should have read we export more to Europe than any other trading block in the rest of the world.
It was also said by someone that picks up on small details that are wrong and bad grammar from other posters. So unlikely to be an English mistake
 

robs1

Member
what do you drink you tea out of ?
British made denby cups, lol.
We are furnishing a new flat and it's very hard to do do with all uk made stuff, especially electrical goods. UK based firms need to be far more proactive on marketing, just like food processors, there is a huge marketing opportunity that all these clever f**kers cant seem to see.
Help the UK bounce back from covid by buying British etc etc, big union Jacks and made/grown/reared in Britian stamped on the front.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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