Vaderstad 8m headland trip in tips I’m missing a bit

spikeislander

Member

Location

bedfordshire

• Sep 24, 2020

• #1

Hi there any tips when drilling with a 8m vaderstad? I did a bit of s barley last year and some grass more recently and both have signs of the seed not quite making it to end of pipes before crossing the headland marks at 24m?
I was I thought dropping in pretty early and not flying along but unless anyone has tips I’ll just have to hold back speed on turns a good bit to allow time?
Do people find a extra headland run easier with 8m even on half width to cover this?
Does the radar start seed feed immediately the drop ram is engaged or are there adjustments I could make or check?
Also whilst I’m asking can you turn tramlines off whilst the markers still cycle? I can stop it cycling on the tram bouts etc but this seems to stop the markers swapping sides and I do it manually each turn? I’ve been into set up menu but had no joy?
Many thanks

 

jhorr30

Member

Location

Edinburgh

• Sep 24, 2020

• #2

Turn the tramline setting to 0 and the markers will still cycle left and right and not put any tramlines in

 

Jetemp

Member

Location

North Yorkshire

• Sep 24, 2020

• #3

What speed do you run your fan at? How times do you drill round the headland? Can you set the sensor at the back to turn the seeder on earlier? Do you fun in low lift when drilling? How fast are you Travelling when dropping the drill in? Lots of variables!

 

spikeislander

Member

Location

bedfordshire

• Sep 24, 2020

• #4

Yes sorry
I think from memory fan speed was around 3800? But went a bit less on grass as light it was as per book tbh.
Drilling at around 13kmh but turns would be nearer 9-10, I’m currently going 3 times round so 24m , and no not in low lift as I’ve been caught out before reversing on headlands .
I’ll try trams at 0 I read the book but it showed options for all the widths but nothing in reference to none at all.
Not sure how I can get it to register seed distribution earlier when the trigger is the ram to drop it?

 

Refco

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Location

County Durham

• Sep 24, 2020

• #5

Maybe if you were in low lift, the seed distributor would activate sooner?
Just remember always to be moving forwards!

 

vinnie123

Member

Location

dorset

• Sep 25, 2020

• #6

Fan should be 4100 iirc and would it not make your life easier to do 4 headland turns? 3 must be tight with an 8m! It is with 4

 

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JonL

Member

Location

East Yorks

• Sep 25, 2020

• #7

3 times round is perfect with 8m. Low lift makes a big difference probably 3-4m

 

spikeislander

Member

Location

bedfordshire

• Sep 25, 2020

• #8

I think fan speed would have been up where it should, maybe a bit less for grass.
I’ll try the low lift as suggested , I’ve used it with my old 6m but buggered up a folllowing Harrow when I backed into corner doing headlands ! I was lifted obviously but as the harrows stay down I think this was the issue?
I try and eliminate things that rely on memory .

 

snarling bee

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Bedfordshire

• Sep 25, 2020

• #9

I always use plenty of fan, and low lift. But one day I will forget to swap to high lift when reversing.
I must admit I don't reverse into corners anymore, just pull round. This is probably a bit severe on the drill if seed bed is a bit hard, but it saves no end of time.

 

snarling bee

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Bedfordshire

• Sep 25, 2020

• #10

JonL said:

3 times round is perfect with 8m. Low lift makes a big difference probably 3-4m

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I see you are a member of BASE. Do you direct drill with your rapid?

 

Jetemp

Member

Location

North Yorkshire

• Sep 25, 2020

• #11

I never run low lift! Had a bad experience many years blocking the end coulters if I turned sharp with a challlenger
On the middle section (certainly on the older drills) attached to the Box section that all the wheel forks mount in is a tin plate with a wing nut type affair on it! i know it’s a rubbish explanation! You can alter how much thread sticks out and it alters the point at which the drill will start seeding!

also pretty much always run my fan at 4400 rpm a little lower for osr

 

T Hectares

Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Berkshire

• Sep 26, 2020

• #12

It’s been a few years since I ran an 8m one but I used to turn it on a quadtrac on a 24m headland, fan speed was up at 4100rpm and always used low lift, the low lift can be adjusted on a silver plate with a screw through it so I ran it higher so that if I forgot to swap to high lift the Harrow would trip over rather than break.
My biggest help was to put a piece of insulation tape on the shaft that connects the metering units, put it where it can be seen from the cab and you can then keep on eye on if it’s turning when the drill passes the headland mark

 

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JonL

Member

Location

East Yorks

• Sep 26, 2020

• #13

snarling bee said:

I see you are a member of BASE. Do you direct drill with your rapid?

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I have tried in the past with limited success. I’m not DD’ing (yet). Joined BASE to learn before I leap