Ellie Harrison
- Thread starter R J
- Start date
I get so cross over these so called celebrities mouthing off,as OH says she never even notices the colour of someone skin,unless they start preaching to her.I have to say the people I have met ,delivery drivers ,shop assistants,doctors nurses or anyone else different to me have been polite and no different to me.Trouble is it’s those who don’t want to mix .
- Location
- South Wales UK
Their attention seekers.
Look at her "strange" history allegedly?
SilliamWhale
Member
Ellie Harrison says White people need to do more to understand what black people have gone through
What does she mean? Does she mean racism in their lives or something as part of the prehistory?
What does she mean? Does she mean racism in their lives or something as part of the prehistory?
DeeGee
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- Location
- North East Wales
I honestly think that the overtly mawkish obsession with ‘Black lives matter’ and ‘taking the knee’ has made many otherwise liberal and tolerant people somewhat less so.
As far as I am concerned all lives matter regardless of skin colour.
As far as I am concerned all lives matter regardless of skin colour.
Av Gorritt
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- Location
- NE Ches / SE Lancs
I don't think you can legislate against racism with any degree of success . You can pass all the laws you like , but you can't make people actually LIKE other people - be they white , black or any other colour / mix . Yes you can make them tolerate , live peaceably with each other (perhaps) but "like " -- No. And I also think that trying to force the issue by legislation might make it worse
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I have a big problem with this. It basically ignores what other races have gone through to get to where they are today.Up until beginning of the last century it hadn’t been a lot of fun to be white either. I presume what she meant by what black people have gone through she means Slavery which obviously is no laughing matter . The idea of being captured by people of your own race, sold to people of another race then carted halfway across the world cannot be a lot of laughs but we seem to forget slavery or near slavery was a part of the history of the British people up to the end of the Black Death when by virtue of there being very few farm workers around peasants were able to set a price for their labour. My wife’s great grandfather came to Kenya in 1897 as an indentured labourer to work on the railways little better than a slave his granddaughter my wife’s mother fifty years later was qualified as a doctor in Dublin. The family don’t sit around whining about how life has been bad for the brown people they have moved onwards and upwards well at least until my wife married me a farmer. It’s time the white people in the UK stopped feeling guilty about Slavery (if they do) we don’t do it anymore, we stopped it over 200 years ago and we stopped a lot of other people doing it too and most of us didn’t benefit then either. I agree that pandering to the BLM movement actually increases racism as a reaction to something that in the UK is self inflicted however in the USA things are different.
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TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
I see no more true racism in the countryside compared to anywhere else, what I do see is more of an "inverted racism" where certain ethnicities choose to not come to the countryside because they either don't feel that they will be welcome, or that they won't enjoy it, or be able to live the style of life that they wish. This is especially true of those who have certain religious beliefs because living miles away from like minded people and religious facilities can be very isolating.
The biggest bar to ethnicities coming to the countryside is the cost & that affects everyone.
The biggest bar to ethnicities coming to the countryside is the cost & that affects everyone.
I don’t hate Lewis Hamilton because he’s black,I think he’s just a shallow vegan who has a stake in a vegan burger company.
- Location
- DD9.
I agree with most of what you write but the last part is not unique to country folk, and at the risk of parroting one of your other posts it’s everywhere, it’s everyone, all races, it’s human nature.
I went to school in Bonny Dundee before it became the bohemian hotspot it is today............
.....I didn’t end up with a knife against my neck one day because of the colour of my skin, chap in the year above wasn’t stabbed through the cheek with a screwdriver because his parents were immigrants and neither of these events happened because we were from the country. They happened because we wore the wrong uniform.
A walk thru Neasden in the work clothes, showed how accepting the urbanites are of our “cultural identity.” And as for attending a vegan festival wearing my Seeland jacket, Christ, there’s plenty worse judgemental folk out there than in my little corner of the country.
I didn’t have much knowledge of Ellie Harrison before, but she’s on my “change channel to d-max” list now. Another celeb hanging her hat on a fashionable cause, to keep herself relevant.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
my children used to say, to be Welsh there were 3 "tests",
1. Live in Wales
2. Born in Wales
3. Speak Welsh
and they thought, to be Welsh, you had to tick at least two.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
God I’d forgotten about the racist Welsh. I went to University in north Wales and was the only Englishman in a house full of welsh speakers. They were fine but if we went to the pub I am sure I was the victim of racist abuse. I am sure it’s the reason for my failure to play cricket for England and not becoming chairman of ICI.
SilliamWhale
Member
The Welsh and English aren't different races. So you were the victim of abuse based on country of origin not race.
TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
From Wikipedia (& other sources) "A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society."
"Welsh" could therefore be considered to be a Race.
SilliamWhale
Member
Ok. I'm Welsh but don't speak Welsh. Am I different race to the Welsh speakers or not?
He’s a hypocrite of the highest degree.He’s been flying around in executive jet for years,
now he wants to save the planet
Sad thing is certain members of society look up to these self centred types in TV, showbiz and sport, and idolise them.
TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
It depends on what you define as being Welsh. For me, I would say that differing only in language would not make a separate race.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I am not a Celt,
I thought the Welsh were a Celtic race whereas I am of Norman decent therefore we are of different races although of similar colour. Therefore any abuse could be construed as racist.
Pistonbroke
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I was the only Welsh man in Newton Rigg college for a year. Don't tell me it's a one way street! Six ft three and fourteen stone amongst some weedy sh!ts ,I "educated" a few along the way.
Wilksy
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- Location
- East Riding
I think the worst i could say is that racist language is used by older country folk, but there's no hate or malice intended i know that doesn't make it right or aceptable, I'd like to think that folk judge you on your character and and not colour, my dad's answer to anything racist was 'well you could buy a paint shade called 'N' word brown' but got rest his soul he had no hate in him