Dingwall Tup Sale.

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
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Highland
Why are most cheviots sold as 2shears?
They’re a very commercially orientated breed, ewes need to be well bred in order to perform and last in a harsh environment, so when you’re looking at a two shear, you have got a fair idea about the sort of sheep you are buying, and they don’t need to be pushed hard to get into sale condition at that age, which helps their own longevity. Love the breed, it’s a fairly honest trade still. Compare that with £200k for a painfully ugly lamb.......
 

Old Tip

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Location
Cumbria
They’re a very commercially orientated breed, ewes need to be well bred in order to perform and last in a harsh environment, so when you’re looking at a two shear, you have got a fair idea about the sort of sheep you are buying, and they don’t need to be pushed hard to get into sale condition at that age, which helps their own longevity. Love the breed, it’s a fairly honest trade still. Compare that with £200k for a painfully ugly lamb.......
Yep totally agree, they are bred for the right things, not colour or horn shape but functionality and commercial atributes
 
Yeah it want much fun at all. After I got the two shearlings early in Dingwall I knew I wouldn’t be after anything til the end so went back to the pens and handled quite a few tups out of interest, the preference for mouths must be quite subjective is all I’m saying 😆

Totally agree, I even came across broken mouth tups, and they were still making money🤔
 

hill farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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breconshire
We bought a couple off a lad who breeds them down here last yr, (he took a few to Lockerbie this year), we're quite impressed with them. They came back off the hill at scanning looking well, better than the improved Welsh and even the South Country's.
Their lambs aren't very big but they don't half weigh! , but I guess you fellas know that!
Anyway bought another this year
Any Welshmen manage to get to Dingwall, I know a few neighbours who've been to Lairg, a couple have bought out of there
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
We bought a couple off a lad who breeds them down here last yr, (he took a few to Lockerbie this year), we're quite impressed with them. They came back off the hill at scanning looking well, better than the improved Welsh and even the South Country's.
Their lambs aren't very big but they don't half weigh! , but I guess you fellas know that!
Anyway bought another this year
Any Welshmen manage to get to Dingwall, I know a few neighbours who've been to Lairg, a couple have bought out of there
I did hear some Welsh.
 

Andy84

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I had it that they were going to put a portion of the Cheviots to the aberfield, as they received such poor prices for their ewe and wedder lambs this year, and are thinking this will sort the problem. Tbf if they never made a decent price for the lambs this year then there must be a problem

They certainly shouldn’t have Suisgill ewe and wether lambs would have been in the top 5% of prices the last 4-5 years at least....
There’s no way a cheviot mule ewe lamb will ever compete with what pure Suisgill cheviots were making! And that’s in an average test be never mind 2020! between that and Torrish dispersing one of the best flocks in the country in favour of bloody trees it’s a sad year for Sutherland cheviots! Madness!
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Wasn't many happy sellers at Dingwall today, I don't think. Trade was well back, from what I saw - switched on for a bit and three in a row were heading back to Tankerness.

320 entries advertised and sale report shows 185 sold.
 
They certainly shouldn’t have Suisgill ewe and wether lambs would have been in the top 5% of prices the last 4-5 years at least....
There’s no way a cheviot mule ewe lamb will ever compete with what pure Suisgill cheviots were making! And that’s in an average test be never mind 2020! between that and Torrish dispersing one of the best flocks in the country in favour of bloody trees it’s a sad year for Sutherland cheviots! Madness!

The Torrish sheep going for trees is extremely sad!! And when the aberfields fail at Suisgill what's the bets they will be replaced by trees😢

Sadly by the time the snp stop with this tree planting blackmail, the hill sheep could be as rare as the Lochness monster😭
 

jamesy

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Location
Orkney
Wasn't many happy sellers at Dingwall today, I don't think. Trade was well back, from what I saw - switched on for a bit and three in a row were heading back to Tankerness.

320 entries advertised and sale report shows 185 sold.
He’s usually pretty strict with sticking to his reserves, which are usually fairly high.
 

Andy84

Member
The Torrish sheep going for trees is extremely sad!! And when the aberfields fail at Suisgill what's the bets they will be replaced by trees😢

Sadly by the time the snp stop with this tree planting blackmail, the hill sheep could be as rare as the Lochness monster😭
its not even sad in my eyes it’s bloody criminal! Incoming landowners shouldn’t be allowed to wipe out our farming history just for greed! The worst thing is all these places could plant trees here and there and still have an operational hill farm it just relies on them not planting the hill ground!
 

Andy84

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its not even sad in my eyes it’s bloody criminal! Incoming landowners shouldn’t be allowed to wipe out our farming history just for greed! The worst thing is all these places could plant trees here and there and still have an operational hill farm it just relies on them not planting the hill ground!
Sorry In-bye ground!
 

Andy84

Member
They certainly shouldn’t have Suisgill ewe and wether lambs would have been in the top 5% of prices the last 4-5 years at least....
There’s no way a cheviot mule ewe lamb will ever compete with what pure Suisgill cheviots were making! And that’s in an average test be never mind 2020! between that and Torrish dispersing one of the best flocks in the country in favour of bloody trees it’s a sad year for Sutherland cheviots! Madness!

I still can’t quite work out the theory behind changing them why change from Cheviot when you have the Suisgill name and that standard of sheep generally averages over £150 a ewe lamb in August, cast ewes are near the same, gimmers £200 and tups average over £1500! Have to be one hell of a blackie flock to top that.....
 

Andy84

Member
They certainly shouldn’t have Suisgill ewe and wether lambs would have been in the top 5% of prices the last 4-5 years at least....
There’s no way a cheviot mule ewe lamb will ever compete with what pure Suisgill cheviots were making! And that’s in an average test be never mind 2020! between that and Torrish dispersing one of the best flocks in the country in favour of bloody trees it’s a sad year for Sutherland cheviots! Madness!

I still can’t quite work out the theory behind changing them why change from Cheviot when you have the Suisgill name and that standard of sheep generally averages over £150 a ewe lamb in August, cast ewes are near the same, gimmers £200 and tups average over £1500! Have to be one hell of a blackie flock to top that.....
 

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