Changing from oil boiler to something else, where to start

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Erm, no. Not as long as I have diesel for my big Mutha genny, Ole Bean!

All down to forward planning. (y) In both houses I built, I had a change over switch installed. Not used the one here much in 8-9 years, but when we want it, it's very nice to just wheel the genny around, plug in, and get on with life...

The earlier place had an LPG combi that of course, needed electric to run it. Not much, just 50watts as I recall, so in theory, manageable from an Inverter, BUT, they produced the wrong flavour of juice....
 

Y Fan Wen

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Location
N W Snowdonia
Got an old Rayburn, wick burner on oil. Use it to heat the water and also part of the house, oil fired boiler for the rest of the house. Would never get rid of the Rayburn, all these other systems require electricity to run/control them. What happens when you have a power cut in the middle of winter, my old Rayburn will still be chugging along whilst your ASHP/GSHP and computer controlled wood chip boilers will be dead.
That's half the reason we have a s/f Rayburn here. The other half is that there is no access for an oil or gas tanker. The bagged anthracite gets delivered nearby and a few bags get moved every so often by bike. Get 2 tons delivered in October, November and that lasts for 12 months. This year it seems to be working out about 15.00/wk..
 
We put in an air source system last year. Absolutely brilliant. You can only hear it if you stand close to it, and it's been completely reliable. Runs off solar during the day. Cannot praise it enough, and because we changed from oil we get a quarterly rebate.
How does the rebate work? Have you got a link to the scheme?
 

Hampton

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BASIS
Location
Shropshire
Has anyone got an Electric boiler?

I know nothing about them and haven’t heard of anyone who has one, but theoretically seems a much better option when coupled with some PV panels than things like air source etc?
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Has anyone got an Electric boiler?

I know nothing about them and haven’t heard of anyone who has one, but theoretically seems a much better option when coupled with some PV panels than things like air source etc?
Dont forget when you need the heat in winter is when you see the sun least.
For actual water heating it is far more efficient to use water heating panels rather than PV
 
Has anyone got an Electric boiler?

I know nothing about them and haven’t heard of anyone who has one, but theoretically seems a much better option when coupled with some PV panels than things like air source etc?

installed two in the some log cabins about 8 years ago.

basically combi boilers. Didn’t want to faff about with tanks.

costly to run but does the job well - heater sandy I think (wrong spelling!)
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
well it’s about 15p / kWh I guess But good efficiency.

oil is about 2.5p at the moment less maybe 10% efficiency

what makes you think it’s worth doing. I imagine when EPC’s get tighter these will come out and ASHP s will go in
Just a thought really. Obviously oil and gas boilers will start to even though there efficiency is increasing greatly. Many old properties with radiators are not greatly suited to ashp, these electric boilers sound like a good compromise, particularly in holiday let’s.
Ashp is still quite expensive compared to these electric boilers.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Dont forget when you need the heat in winter is when you see the sun least.
For actual water heating it is far more efficient to use water heating panels rather than PV
Even better still use the combined PV and water heating tubes. They also have the advantage of being able to be mounted vertically up a wall.
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
Just a thought really. Obviously oil and gas boilers will start to even though there efficiency is increasing greatly. Many old properties with radiators are not greatly suited to ashp, these electric boilers sound like a good compromise, particularly in holiday let’s.
Ashp is still quite expensive compared to these electric boilers.
Here is the problem with electric boilers:


To summarise per pence/kWh of heating energy after boiler efficiency taken into account:

Electricity 19.88
Mains Gas 3.85
Oil 3.33
Seasoned Wood 7.00

(As at Sept 2020 prices).
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Here is the problem with electric boilers:


To summarise per pence/kWh of heating energy after boiler efficiency taken into account:

Electricity 19.88
Mains Gas 3.85
Oil 3.33
Seasoned Wood 7.00

(As at Sept 2020 prices).
I am on mains gas with latest gas boiler, by my calculations with an efficiency rating of 95% my heating cost is under 2.8p /kWh
 

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