Brexit Will Make Us Rich

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
A surprising number of farmers voted to leave the EU on the promise of less red tape.
What be first to go? Assurance, traceability, slurry spreading all year round, spray and antibiotic recording?

If it all went tomorrow, how much could you produce and how much extra money?
If I removed all of it tomorrow, how much more money would you make?
 
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7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
3 crop rule has ended in Wales. A couple of £kk per year better off for me not producing loss making crops that no one wants :). It will take a while to recoup the £250k I've lost over the years thanks to EU goal post moving and rule changing though.....:(
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I’ve never yet met a remainer who claims to know why others voted to leave. They all find it totally incomprehensible.
I voted remain.

It was what I thought at the time was right for my business, and therefore my family.

Why ither voted to leave is up to them.

We are on the leave track now let's get it done and dusted. Can't be doing with the uncertainty.

If you voted leave because you wanted less form filling for the BPS , you have always had that option.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I’ve never yet met a remainer who claims to know why others voted to leave. They all find it totally incomprehensible.
Because I don't like the name European union so I didn't want to be in it, is that comprehensible enough?
Now if they had given the club and nice name like George or Matilda then I would have been happy to stay.
There you go a good reason for you, now you can be happy that you know :ROFLMAO:
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
I think there is a quiet satisfaction in many European countries from a rural prospective that the UK has finally left the EU. UK governments of all persuasion were always seen here as anti-farming and constantly putting blocks, vetoing or watering down and generally frustrating agricultural policies agreed by the other members.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I think there is a quiet satisfaction in many European countries from a rural prospective that the UK has finally left the EU. UK governments of all persuasion were always seen here as anti-farming and constantly putting blocks, vetoing or watering down and generally frustrating agricultural policies agreed by the other members.
Quiet satisfaction, or Sh!te scared that 2 countries are going to have to carry the other 25..........
 
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Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I think there is a quiet satisfaction in many European countries from a rural prospective that the UK has finally left the EU. UK governments of all persuasion were always seen here as anti-farming and constantly putting blocks, vetoing or watering down and generally frustrating agricultural policies agreed by the other members.
that is fantastic news, I am so glad everyone is happy
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
3 crop rule has ended in Wales. A couple of £kk per year better off for me not producing loss making crops that no one wants :). It will take a while to recoup the £250k I've lost over the years thanks to EU goal post moving and rule changing though.....:(

Did you read the other part of that press release? Three crop rule may be going, but the current ‘greening’ requirements are to be enshrined in Cross Compliance legislation. Previously you could opt out of them and just take 30% less subsidy, if you that way enclined.

Red tape isn’t going anywhere.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Did you read the other part of that press release? Three crop rule may be going, but the current ‘greening’ requirements are to be enshrined in Cross Compliance legislation. Previously you could opt out of them and just take 30% less subsidy, if you that way enclined.

Red tape isn’t going anywhere.
Oh well.
Thats the helicopter gone then.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
A surprising number of farmers voted to leave the EU on the promise of less red tape.
What be first to go? Assurance, traceability, slurry spreading all year round, spray and antibiotic recording?

If it all went tomorrow, how much could you produce and how much extra money?
If I removed all of it tomorrow, how much more money would you make?
Farmers are generally rich, even if not in the $$ sense. If you are working 27 hours a day for nothing then pretty much nobody can save you and you are poor. I voted leave and I did it because I want my children to grow up outside of the EU. Whether that will happen remains to be seen. Maybe they will want to move to an EU country if it still exists in 10 years time. I don't know but I was asked a question and answered it. Getting financially 'rich' in farming is tough for all but the few who are either very clever, took risks at the right time or inherited a lot of stuff. Good luck to them. I make money elsewhere at the mo. I don't really think Brexit will affect much to be honest. Trade will always find a way.
 

DanniAgro

Member
Did you read the other part of that press release? Three crop rule may be going, but the current ‘greening’ requirements are to be enshrined in Cross Compliance legislation. Previously you could opt out of them and just take 30% less subsidy, if you that way enclined.

Red tape isn’t going anywhere.
Exactly, red tape isn't going anywhere. Ever since the 70s we've been promised bonfires of red tape, but they strangely never happen, and rules have kept multiplying over the years.
In short don't hold your breath on this issue, as none of the usual suspects like Eustace or Prentiss have said anything about it.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
My point is that I don't know why most voted to leave but the promise of less form-filling was often mentioned.
Yes, I voted remain while holding my nose, mainly because removing support would bankrupt Scottish agriculture.
I voted to leave for many reasons, but the paramount one was sovereignty; Parliament and our Supreme Court should be the ultimate source and final arbiters of law in the UK, I don't want my children to grow up in a country that was only such on paper. That aside, I also think that as a nation state we will be better off socially, strategically and financially out of the EU although, obviously, the latter will take more time to affect than the other matters.

Quiet satisfaction, or Sh!te scared that 2 countries are going to have to carry the other 25..........
Yep, the fact is that when the UK left it the EU was losing something that added up to the economic size of nineteen of its other members, and one that subsidised, rather than was subsidised by, the others. But for some reason they don't like to talk about that... :unsure:
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
I voted to leave for many reasons, but the paramount one was sovereignty; Parliament and our Supreme Court should be the ultimate source and final arbiters of law in the UK, I don't want my children to grow up in a country that was only such on paper. That aside, I also think that as a nation state we will be better off socially, strategically and financially out of the EU although, obviously, the latter will take more time to affect than the other matters.


Yep, the fact is that when the UK left it the EU was losing something that added up to the economic size of nineteen of its other members, and one that subsidised, rather than was subsidised by, the others. But for some reason they don't like to talk about that... :unsure:


Now, another way you could twist it is, the UK contribution is/was the same as just one country’s (Poland) (mind is blank🥺 - opposite of contribution)
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Get into Mozzers ASAP. They are selling Red Leicester as mature cheddar. All labelled wrong. You can eat half of it, take it back and get a nice chunk of expensive cheddar and get to keep the original as you have licked it. They even refunded me twice and paid for a taxi to replace my goods. Ace.
 

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