Honest answers, Brexiteers only, what price do you consider too high to leave the EU?

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A reduction in GDP and inward investment resulting in the average UK resident being poorer?
A rise in poverty resulting in UNICEF feeding UK children?
An explosion in UK government debt?
Scotland leaving?
A border down the Irish sea
Where is your line in the sand, when Brexit is doing too much damage to the UK to be worth it?
 

Ashtree

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The Brexit vote itself on its own, did more damage to societal cohesion, than any single event probably in the last 200 years.
Then Boris has doubled down on that, and drastically weakened the political union. NI is one foot out the door, with the other one in mid air on the way out. Scotland has the engine revved up, and waiting for the fog to lift.
Next stop the U Turn! Another political schism will take place.
It’s hard to keep up to be honest!!
 

robs1

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The Brexit vote itself on its own, did more damage to societal cohesion, than any single event probably in the last 200 years.
Then Boris has doubled down on that, and drastically weakened the political union. NI is one foot out the door, with the other one in mid air on the way out. Scotland has the engine revved up, and waiting for the fog to lift.
Next stop the U Turn! Another political schism will take place.
It’s hard to keep up to be honest!!
Some scots wanted out long before brexit, some in NI wanted a united Irelsnd long before you or I were born. How can a democratic vote be responsible for problems ? It's the bad losers that have caused the bad feeling, either people are democrats and accept results win or lose any other way is not democracy, you and those who dont accept the result and constantly cause bad feelings are solely responsible for any problems had the pre vote pro arguments been better then remain would have won. It's a very simple fact, farage boris, Gove nor the red bus was responsible for brexit, arrogant pro European brits and eu politicians were.
 

Ashtree

Member
Some scots wanted out long before brexit, some in NI wanted a united Irelsnd long before you or I were born. How can a democratic vote be responsible for problems ? It's the bad losers that have caused the bad feeling, either people are democrats and accept results win or lose any other way is not democracy, you and those who dont accept the result and constantly cause bad feelings are solely responsible for any problems had the pre vote pro arguments been better then remain would have won. It's a very simple fact, farage boris, Gove nor the red bus was responsible for brexit, arrogant pro European brits and eu politicians were.

But hey, people wanting a united Ireland may have existed for a hundred years. Them wanting that, didn’t put a regulatory wall between NI and the mainland. Brexit, Boris and oddly enough the DUP did that!!!!!
 

Raider112

Member
The Brexit vote itself on its own, did more damage to societal cohesion, than any single event probably in the last 200 years.
Then Boris has doubled down on that, and drastically weakened the political union. NI is one foot out the door, with the other one in mid air on the way out. Scotland has the engine revved up, and waiting for the fog to lift.
Next stop the U Turn! Another political schism will take place.
It’s hard to keep up to be honest!!
I never had you down as a Brexiteer to be honest Ashy!! ;)
 

robs1

Member
But hey, people wanting a united Ireland may have existed for a hundred years. Them wanting that, didn’t put a regulatory wall between NI and the mainland. Brexit, Boris and oddly enough the DUP did that!!!!!
No the GFA is responsible for that, when it was drawn up us leaving wasnt envisaged and the EU are using it to stir trouble up to try and get us to stay, with May in number 10 it might have worked, hopefully in time a solution will emerge that keeps all sides happy but I expect politics will again get in the way of common sense.
 

gone

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Some scots wanted out long before brexit, some in NI wanted a united Irelsnd long before you or I were born. How can a democratic vote be responsible for problems ? It's the bad losers that have caused the bad feeling, either people are democrats and accept results win or lose any other way is not democracy, you and those who dont accept the result and constantly cause bad feelings are solely responsible for any problems had the pre vote pro arguments been better then remain would have won. It's a very simple fact, farage boris, Gove nor the red bus was responsible for brexit, arrogant pro European brits and eu politicians were.
There must be a lot of Unionists that followed the DUP's advice to vote for Brexit regretting their decision and disgusted with the DUP's handling of Brexit.
There must be a lot of Unionist Scots regretting their decision to vote for Brexit now that they are seeing Brexit looks like it will lead to the end of Scotland being a part of the UK.
There must be a lot of fiscally responsible Conservatives must be wondering is Brexit worth it, when after an excellent job done by the Tories reducing the countries borrowing after years of Labor, only to blow it all and more on the alter of Brexit.
 

robs1

Member
Why is brexit going to lead to Scotland leaving ? They have been told they cant use the pound so will need to use the euro straight away, they dont meet the criteria to join the eu atm , of course the eu may bend the rules out of spite but it's a huge jump from people telling pollsters they will vote to leave the uk and them.doing it
 

Raider112

Member
There must be a lot of Unionists that followed the DUP's advice to vote for Brexit regretting their decision and disgusted with the DUP's handling of Brexit.
There must be a lot of Unionist Scots regretting their decision to vote for Brexit now that they are seeing Brexit looks like it will lead to the end of Scotland being a part of the UK.
There must be a lot of fiscally responsible Conservatives must be wondering is Brexit worth it, when after an excellent job done by the Tories reducing the countries borrowing after years of Labor, only to blow it all and more on the alter of Brexit.
A few must be's in there, going by comments from people who weren't too bothered about which way it all went there ARE a lot of people who's attitude has hardened after seeing how the EU have acted in all this.
 

Henarar

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A reduction in GDP and inward investment resulting in the average UK resident being poorer?
A rise in poverty resulting in UNICEF feeding UK children?
An explosion in UK government debt?
Scotland leaving?
A border down the Irish sea
Where is your line in the sand, when Brexit is doing too much damage to the UK to be worth it?
Who do you class as a brexiteer, anyone that voted leave?
 

Raider112

Member
It's unfortunate that the EU are playing silly beggars about this, some say this is what we signed up for but all the evidence says it's politics. Nobody is going to tell me that if a wagon went from France to Germany with a form filled in with the wrong pen that the load would be condemned so if the will was there it could be sorted.
The BOE boss says that we are being given rules that no other country in the world are asked to abide by and the EU wouldn't accept them so why are we expected to?
Teething troubles were to be expected but petty point scoring wasn't. At least we are now aware of the fact that they were only interested in our money.
 

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