Triton direct seed drill

Spud

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I’ve posted several times about the marketing of the drill I thought the concept may be good in late drilling either cultivated or direct depending on soil type. the trouble was it was aminno snake oil. Anyway if we are being pointed at eco farming by Boris and miss nutty nut Carrie will a
tritton drill work directly into strong land in September. I don’t want to muck around late in the year. I’m looking at a sim tech and a mazuri
Dale eco with low disturbance system looks interesting too
 
I’ve posted several times about the marketing of the drill I thought the concept may be good in late drilling either cultivated or direct depending on soil type. the trouble was it was aminno snake oil. Anyway if we are being pointed at eco farming by Boris and miss nutty nut Carrie will a
tritton drill work directly into strong land in September. I don’t want to muck around late in the year. I’m looking at a sim tech and a mazuri

Absolutely no doubt it does.
Pic 1 is what some of our soil looks like behind the plough. Pic 2 shows some wheat sown into that exact same field in late September this year. Pic taken late October.
 

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I’m assuming you bought new? Has anyone ever seen a used Triton for sale? Just wondering whether they held their value well...

Yes bought new. I’ve had two people offer to buy it for what I paid for it but I believe there’s been a price increase so that could be why. Don’t quote me but I think they only went into production in 2018 so it’s to early for used machines.
 

Jackall

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I appreciate your views warksfarmer. You are the one user who shows how it is for you. I hope to get demos for direct type drills next year. Did you buy blind / see working on another farm or get your own demo.
 
I appreciate your views warksfarmer. You are the one user who shows how it is for you. I hope to get demos for direct type drills next year. Did you buy blind / see working on another farm or get your own demo.

I hadn’t seen one in the flesh but seen some you tube videos. It was the closing blade that spurred the interest as nothing on the market has this system.
I made contact in early December 19 and Simon couldn’t have been more helpful. Spoke a few times and then various emails with the pricing etc. I ordered it on the 21/12/19 funnily enough having just checked back, so a year to the day. It was delivered at the end of Jan 20 so about a month later. It went to work within a few days.
As I’ve said before some of the stuff I’ve since read on this thread are miles away from my experience to the point I don’t actually believe half of them.
Over the last year Simon and Ian at Triton have always been on the end of the phone and Rob who does the spare parts is also easily contactable.
We’ve had some dodgey bolts bending and lost some points which have been replaced foc and then they’ve worked on a remedy for the bolts. Also a similar thing with some shear bolts. Again they’ve been replaced foc.

My whole experience has been nothing short of excellent and up there with the likes of Bateman and Claas backup. But best of all I now have a direct drill that will work directly or on moved soil and actually closes the slot which no other drill I’ve tried has ever done consistently.

In an ideal world I’d also have a disc drill for tall cover crops but can’t justify that. I’ve a great local contractor who has a 750a and I’ll use that if required - will be using it next autumn to go wheat into a 4 year grass ley for example, that had horrendous blackgrass so I just want to slit some wheat in so not to undo 4 years of what the grass has done. I’m going to add a front mounted topper here as well so I can top and use the Triton direct into waist high mustard cover on the lighter soil that doesn’t need time to dry out after a cover.

I don’t see us ever wanting a wider Triton and if the need ever arises I’ll buy another 3m so that we don’t get back into the big 350hp tractor category. Two smaller ones are better in my view.
 
That's what we'd call 'Moderate kelter' - or 'clart'

😂😂😂😂 the only way we could pull a 5f on a 14inch furrow width at 10 inches deep was with a fully weighted 310hp tractor.

When we had a 6m Solo R a Challenger 865C couldn’t get above 6km/hr with the legs in the shallowest hole.

It’s a bit more than clart!
 

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Spud

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YO62
😂😂😂😂 the only way we could pull a 5f on a 14inch furrow width at 10 inches deep was with a fully weighted 310hp tractor.

When we had a 6m Solo R a Challenger 865C couldn’t get above 6km/hr with the legs in the shallowest hole.

It’s a bit more than clart!

One must ask, what the hell were you ploughing that kelter at 10" deep for?
 
How big is the tractor on the front of 3m?

230hp. It’s a bit of a chicken and egg situation because we need weight to get traction but to heavy and the tractor sinks in wet conditions. The utopia is tracks or some form of track.

I think on sand land you could get down to 180hp size in a smaller frame.
 
One must ask, what the hell were you ploughing that kelter at 10" deep for?


Blackgrass basically. Did a relatively ok job and got rid of probably 50% of it. It’s not been moved since then, but still no good for cereals so went into grass. It’ll be coming back into wheat next autumn or possibly spring wheat spring 22. Not decided yet.
 

R J H

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I’ve posted several times about the marketing of the drill I thought the concept may be good in late drilling either cultivated or direct depending on soil type. the trouble was it was aminno snake oil. Anyway if we are being pointed at eco farming by Boris and miss nutty nut Carrie will a
tritton drill work directly into strong land in September. I don’t want to muck around late in the year. I’m looking at a sim tech and a mazuri
yes it will drill well in September ' I drill both direct and conventional from sept and rape in august right through to spring,
 

farenheit

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Midlands
I hadn’t seen one in the flesh but seen some you tube videos. It was the closing blade that spurred the interest as nothing on the market has this system.
I made contact in early December 19 and Simon couldn’t have been more helpful. Spoke a few times and then various emails with the pricing etc. I ordered it on the 21/12/19 funnily enough having just checked back, so a year to the day. It was delivered at the end of Jan 20 so about a month later. It went to work within a few days.
As I’ve said before some of the stuff I’ve since read on this thread are miles away from my experience to the point I don’t actually believe half of them.
Over the last year Simon and Ian at Triton have always been on the end of the phone and Rob who does the spare parts is also easily contactable.
We’ve had some dodgey bolts bending and lost some points which have been replaced foc and then they’ve worked on a remedy for the bolts. Also a similar thing with some shear bolts. Again they’ve been replaced foc.

My whole experience has been nothing short of excellent and up there with the likes of Bateman and Claas backup. But best of all I now have a direct drill that will work directly or on moved soil and actually closes the slot which no other drill I’ve tried has ever done consistently.

In an ideal world I’d also have a disc drill for tall cover crops but can’t justify that. I’ve a great local contractor who has a 750a and I’ll use that if required - will be using it next autumn to go wheat into a 4 year grass ley for example, that had horrendous blackgrass so I just want to slit some wheat in so not to undo 4 years of what the grass has done. I’m going to add a front mounted topper here as well so I can top and use the Triton direct into waist high mustard cover on the lighter soil that doesn’t need time to dry out after a cover.

I don’t see us ever wanting a wider Triton and if the need ever arises I’ll buy another 3m so that we don’t get back into the big 350hp tractor category. Two smaller ones are better in my view.
If only Triton had made you their official spokesman they might have done a bit better on here!
 

jh.

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fife
Can't be that bad or you'd have dropped the back furrow off.

I'm convinced things are getting harder . Back when I first started I was ploughing with a 3070 Massey on a 4 furrow and dropping the back furr off in the heavy stuff when it got wet but rarely remember having to stop ploughing . More recently building up to circa 150hp on the 4 and this winter currently sitting with a 200hp on a 5furr and a 180hp on a 4 , both of which haven't been able to move this month so far .
 

Fuzzy

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Bedfordshire
I'm convinced things are getting harder . Back when I first started I was ploughing with a 3070 Massey on a 4 furrow and dropping the back furr off in the heavy stuff when it got wet but rarely remember having to stop ploughing . More recently building up to circa 150hp on the 4 and this winter currently sitting with a 200hp on a 5furr and a 180hp on a 4 , both of which haven't been able to move this month so far .
Not too wet for some !!
 

Spud

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YO62
I'm convinced things are getting harder . Back when I first started I was ploughing with a 3070 Massey on a 4 furrow and dropping the back furr off in the heavy stuff when it got wet but rarely remember having to stop ploughing . More recently building up to circa 150hp on the 4 and this winter currently sitting with a 200hp on a 5furr and a 180hp on a 4 , both of which haven't been able to move this month so far .

The key difference (other than hp) since those halcyon days is tyre width.

I used to plough with a Ford 5600 on 13.6r38, with wheel weights, pulling 4x12" furrows.

That became a 4x12" reversible on a 2wd MF399 on 16.9r38, but struggled in heavy going....so we put the 4wd 956XL turbo Nash on the plough....and broke the plough

That became 4x14" on an 8340 Ford, on 20.8r38, which again struggled for grip, the Maxxum with a heavier back end, and wheel weights (it was a loader tractor) on 16.9r38 pulled it much easier

5x14" (with press) fared fairly well on a 6290MF on 18.4r38, then a 6480 on 20.8r38 (but both needed weights and diff lock in tough going

6x14" on a MF 7495 on 20.8r42 went well, that thing did put the power down very well indeed (shouldn't of sold that tractor!)

We now have a 7f semi mounted vari width plough, usually hung on a 7620 MF on 20.8r42/16.9r30 wheels. Its amazing how well it goes really, a ton on the front and away she goes.

The key is grip, not power. An engine pulls best when its governing (that's the definition of 'Grunt') - the engine needs to pull down before grip is lost, then traction is maximised. Highest gear lowest rev kind of thinking.

I see people on 650&710 tyres revving and chewing and spinning pulling smallish ploughs with biggish horsepower. Put narrower wheels on and she'll go much better.

We until recently had two 7620's - virtually identical tractors, except the wheels. The one on the 20.8r42's would always outgrip the other on 620's, almost regardless of job. A narrow, but long footprint is far more effective than a short wide one. Think how a crawler works.
 

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