H & s check before feed delivery

Anyone remember unloading sugar beet pulp in cwt bags? They were stacked on end on an artic trailer, the driver would wheel them to the side, and you'd carry on your shoulder. If you were lucky the bags were still a bit squishy, but if they'd been loaded a day or two before it was like concrete.

They would set hard like tombstones. A wet day job would be loosening them up by smashing them from all sides with a short piece of scaffold pole.
 
Get out of the dark ages then, build a shed, buy a container or do it yourself.
I should add that me and my brother were there to assist unloading , we were on Council holding and the
driver's father tried to claim one of our fields and he nearly succeeded until the local councillor put a stop to it and that was the main reason behind it
I could go on about our former neighbour but I won't
Afterwards we had deliverys from
MSF and the driver's name was Roger
who never complained about carrying
bags up steps
 

Johnnyboxer

Member
Location
Yorkshire
i learn't the hard way, two sticks now, Weight limits on bags/blocks, might be a right pain in the butt, but one of the best things h&s have done fore farming.
2 tote bags on a dung fork, is really asking for trouble, both by the weight, and heading towards driver, with a load of prongs ! Pallet forks for tractor loader, are not that dear, we have just bought a new set, £595 + vat.
thinking back to the 60's, we had tons and tons delivered, 72 lb bags of meal, 112lb sugar beet, fert was 112 as well, we moaned when meal went to 56 lb, took longer to unload !

Yep
Unloaded lots of fert & SBP in 50kg bags as a teenager
Length of yard & uphill into a ground floor granary onto pallets in the Earth floor
Those were the days when you had a 10t flat wagon to unload
Used to turn it into a bit of a competition with the other lad and have some craic
 

Johnnyboxer

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Oh my, Risk Assessment for feed delivery?

How times change ..[emoji85]

30 years ago working as a rep for BOCM Silcock, if we’d asked a farmer that we would come to do a RA, you would never have got an order from him

He’d have laughed you off the farm, saying if his place wasn’t up to scratch then you could stick the feed order & swivel

You were just pleased to get an order for bulk or bags
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Cake lorry driver was telling me me of a farm he delivers to that still blows into a cake loft, lorry has to park on main road and driver has to put lorry to blow then move the pipe around to fill the loft evenly, bet he doesn’t tell H and S about that one!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Never had any problems when we. were farming dealing with 5 firms over the years delivering bulk but only problem was with delivery of bags when the driver refused to carry bags up steps to granary after exchange of
abuse words he did help to unload
Funny thing was at the time he was living next door, he now drives readymix lorry
Sounds like the ready mix driver who called here. Got it stuck on the grass revving it like an arsehole and refused to go any further so we had to unload it all in to the telehandler bucket and move it with that. Then he broke the spout off as he went past a stanchion. He really wasn’t very happy by the time he left.😗
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Was speaking to an ECV delivery driver the other week. They have had a major crackdown on farmers offloading tote bags with dung forks. He said he'd been in fear as some chap had come at him with "20 spikes" and was taking two totes at a time. Official letter from them went out to all customers to confirm no deliveries unless proper pallet forks, and if farmer didn't have them they would send out with a Moffat on the back of the lorry, for extra charge.

be careful what you wish for...,.. worn pallets forks have a razor sharp edge. Roll them back with a tote on and they'll slice through the lugs like butter. Bag lifter only please ££££££££££
 
be careful what you wish for...,.. worn pallets forks have a razor sharp edge. Roll them back with a tote on and they'll slice through the lugs like butter. Bag lifter only please ££££££££££

Until folk have used a bag lifter I can imagine the resistance to buying one but once you have had 5 minutes you realise they make the job 100% easier as they are higher up and you can see them properly.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Anyone remember unloading sugar beet pulp in cwt bags? They were stacked on end on an artic trailer, the driver would wheel them to the side, and you'd carry on your shoulder. If you were lucky the bags were still a bit squishy, but if they'd been loaded a day or two before it was like concrete.
we had a load of s/b in sack bags, gone hard, storing in a shed, sacks were just a tad to wide, so get wedged, and the chap behind would give you a shunt, we thought it was hilarious then, today, stupidity.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
I should add that if we were still farming and there is problem with feed
delivery I would tell however is complaining that there are plenty of firms who will deliver no problem
I think you will find in 2021 you would struggle to get feed with that attitude,
And buying it in 25kg bags adds about £40 a tonne, take it you would soon change your mind
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Has anybody else had to have a health and safety visit before feed can be delivered??
Had a phone call this morning to say h & s will be here at 12.30 before 4tonne of ewe feed can be delivered.( The same company have delivered here in the past)

New H&S person probably and perhaps they're getting too many accidents or near misses at delivery locations.
It's a good thing they're checking and no worries as long as the place isn't a dump (I'm sure its not) and what you're asking them to do isn't ridiculous.
 
Location
Cleveland
Anyone remember unloading sugar beet pulp in cwt bags? They were stacked on end on an artic trailer, the driver would wheel them to the side, and you'd carry on your shoulder. If you were lucky the bags were still a bit squishy, but if they'd been loaded a day or two before it was like concrete.
Dad used to unload fertiliser in cwt sacks, then when using them he used to stack them on a flat trailer with a fertiliser spreader attached to the back. He had his uncle driving the tractor whilst he humped these sacks into the spinner whilst going across the field...he said it was particularly hard whilst going the wrong way across the rig and furs.
Said his uncle used to carry sacks of corn up the granary to dry out. Had a sack barrow that winched the sacks up to shoulder height to carry.
Said I don’t know I’m born whilst I carrying 4 600 kilos bags out to him with the jcb 😂
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Dad used to unload fertiliser in cwt sacks, then when using them he used to stack them on a flat trailer with a fertiliser spreader attached to the back. He had his uncle driving the tractor whilst he humped these sacks into the spinner whilst going across the field...he said it was particularly hard whilst going the wrong way across the rig and furs.
Said his uncle used to carry sacks of corn up the granary to dry out. Had a sack barrow that winched the sacks up to shoulder height to carry.
Said I don’t know I’m born whilst I carrying 4 600 kilos bags out to him with the jcb 😂

He's right you know, and I'm pretty sure which method he would prefer....

The move to palleted fert was a revelation here when I bought a Teleshift, after years of unloading and then loading 1cwt sacks of fert. Big bags then made the job a genuine One Man operation from delivery to spreading. :)
 

Timbo

Member
Location
Gods County
Has anybody else had to have a health and safety visit before feed can be delivered??
Had a phone call this morning to say h & s will be here at 12.30 before 4tonne of ewe feed can be delivered.( The same company have delivered here in the past)

Yes, we had 4 Farmers man visit to look at yard / yard surface, overhead wires etc, turning area, and bin / bin filling point, filled in a risk assessment n left me a copy. Took some photos of the yard gateway and where the bins were which the drivers can look up on their in-cab tablet to identify where things should go. Was fine.

They've had drivers getting stuck, damaging the truck, climbing unsafe ladders, filling the wrong bin etc when no one's around etc so I thought it was a great idea to get it done
 

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