Chasingmytail
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Nope ours are costing us. Worked out margins - pretty poor. Got x2 child labour now too. Good job we have the construction income.
and don’t forget all labour costs go against taxPlease consider employing someone at weekends or reasonably regualrly to allow you to spend time with your wife, your kids, and importantly, with yourself.
Do you mind me asking what you're costings/income was coming to? How many cowsNope ours are costing us. Worked out margins - pretty poor. Got x2 child labour now too. Good job we have the construction income.
It would be nice to have bps my dad keeps that as his retirement or rent for the farm can't be grudge him that it's his farm after all, I get the glastir thoWorking out your cost of production is also key to any decisions you make going forward, survival after bps disappears will be only possible if you are able to change and adapt you system and knowing your costs will be key.
Probably does a lot of good to my marriage not having time off I'd drive her round the bend I think otherwisePlease consider employing someone at weekends or reasonably regualrly to allow you to spend time with your wife, your kids, and importantly, with yourself.
Didn't realise the grammar police were on ere!
Do you mind me asking what you're costings/income was coming to? How many cows
It would be nice to have bps my dad keeps that as his retirement or rent for the farm can't be grudge him that it's his farm after all, I get the glastir tho
You have a point, but it’s pointless.Punctuation can be of vital importance.
Woman without her man is nothing.
Woman: without her, man is nothing.
Or:
When shall we eat Mum?
When shall we eat, Mum?
Question to them that say they cost them money , why bother ? I can half understand arable farmer keeping them for the dung but if your working off farm and they costing you money why on earth keep them?
But suckler cows or feeding cattle aren't meant to provide much cash to live on - they're regarded as a safe way of keeping your money together.
Farming isn't a business or even a way of life. It's a philosophy.
Bills still need to be paid.But suckler cows or feeding cattle aren't meant to provide much cash to live on - they're regarded as a safe way of keeping your money together.
Farming isn't a business or even a way of life. It's a philosophy.
Theres at least one dairy herd for sale every week . Some people make sucklers pay , some dont. Same goes for dairy, sheep, arable, contracting etc etc. Some farmers are better than others, the same goes in all walks of life.Maybe I should do what I've seen a few north Wales boys do and sell all the sucklers cut the sheep to by half and milk 250 300 cows it seems what the banks want you to do spend 500 to a million on a dairy set up, good luck to those that do but I'd need to find at least 50k a year in wages and no guarantee the milk price will hold up but it seems that what the banks and advisors keep pushing for or a chicken shed
How many of them would you run to the acre on PP on that model?Theres at least one dairy herd for sale every week . Some people make sucklers pay , some dont. Same goes for dairy, sheep, arable, contracting etc etc. Some farmers are better than others, the same goes in all walks of life.
I could buy nice 8-12mths dairy x weanlings now for what you cop is and cash them in october for at least £200 /hd clear profit, just to put it in perspective.
Probably start at 3/acre working down to 1/acre, depends how good the grass is and/or the farms fertility i suppose.How many of them would you run to the acre on PP on that model?
Probably start at 3/acre working down to 1/acre, depends how good the grass is and/or the farms fertility i suppose.
Bloody hell better sell these cows I run these on 150 acres in the summer just the grazing excluding the silage ground, so could run 300 say at what you're saying, at £200 that's 60k profitProbably start at 3/acre working down to 1/acre, depends how good the grass is and/or the farms fertility i suppose.
That’s why I asked the question. Last time I looked at buying suckled calves, running them for a year and selling in autumn to a finisher, the maths suggested it wouldn’t have covered the rent.Bloody hell better sell these cows I run these on 150 acres in the summer just the grazing excluding the silage ground, so could run 300 say at what you're saying, at £200 that's 60k profit
I would try to find out why its costing you £650/cow firstBloody hell better sell these cows I run these on 150 acres in the summer just the grazing excluding the silage ground, so could run 300 say at what you're saying, at £200 that's 60k profit
420 variable 230 fixed my variable are as close I can get, harder on my fixed costs hard to split them between the sheep and cowsI would try to find out why its costing you £650/cow first
Do you think it would be more profitable to sell the calves as stores especially when store prices are good? Im guessing being from mid wales the fattening ration would all be bought in and costly? The big finishers can fatten cattle for £'s cheaper due to location etc .420 variable 230 fixed my variable are as close I can get, harder on my fixed costs hard to split them between the sheep and cows
TB can be a issue don't want to be dependent on selling stores and have a TB breakdown, all mostly pure stabiliser now don't seem to sell in the stores, fattening the bulls on tmr yes buying in rolled barley Trafford gold but grow our own whole crop and maize, heifers are housed quite soon in October and finished the following spring early summer only having good quality silage the native breed in them makes the heifers go to fat with concentratesDo you think it would be more profitable to sell the calves as stores especially when store prices are good? Im guessing being from mid wales the fattening ration would all be bought in and costly? The big finishers can fatten cattle for £'s cheaper due to location etc .
Do you think it would be more profitable to sell the calves as stores especially when store prices are good? Im guessing being from mid wales the fattening ration would all be bought in and costly? The big finishers can fatten cattle for £'s cheaper due to location etc .
Do you think it would be more profitable to sell the calves as stores especially when store prices are good? Im guessing being from mid wales the fattening ration would all be bought in and costly? The big finishers can fatten cattle for £'s cheaper due to location etc .