Dr Ursula von der Leyen

Should she stay or should she go?


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I try and avoid this section of the forum, it all gets a bit excited for me. However I looked in and got sucked into this black hole. Just out of interest, seeing as you have now left the E.U. and all that it entails, why do you still seem to be so connected to what they are doing? Surely out is out and you would be better served paddling your own canoe with all that it entails? By leaving I don’t think you now have much of a right to comment on how things are run this side of the channel, certainly you are now not in a position to call for the resignation of a leader from whom you are now parted.
 

Dave79

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Location
N Antrim
Away back under your rock, Matthew. She tried to stop vaccines coming to our country. It has emerged that some vaccine was in transit to Northern Ireland on Friday via the republic, which is probably why there was panic. It was I’ll advised, and it was wrong.
Also, although I don’t live in the eu, and don’t elect any MEPs, this woman and her commission have considerable power over me, and I have no democratic recourse to affect change. This is of course because I live in Northern Ireland, where for all intents and purposes, we are still in the eu. Have a look at some of the pedantic rules being enforced, yesterday we heard of a digger not allowed to travel from GB to NI because there was some dirt under the floor mat, and this would contaminate the whole eu, even though the end destination was within the country where the journey started!
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
I try and avoid this section of the forum, it all gets a bit excited for me. However I looked in and got sucked into this black hole. Just out of interest, seeing as you have now left the E.U. and all that it entails, why do you still seem to be so connected to what they are doing? Surely out is out and you would be better served paddling your own canoe with all that it entails? By leaving I don’t think you now have much of a right to comment on how things are run this side of the channel, certainly you are now not in a position to call for the resignation of a leader from whom you are now parted.
Are you talking to @Ashtree, @le bon paysan and @czechmate ?
(Although I did nearly reply along the same lines as you yesterday.) There really should be an option for “No longer our business” in the poll.
 
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B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Away back under your rock, Matthew. She tried to stop vaccines coming to our country. It has emerged that some vaccine was in transit to Northern Ireland on Friday via the republic, which is probably why there was panic. It was I’ll advised, and it was wrong.
Also, although I don’t live in the eu, and don’t elect any MEPs, this woman and her commission have considerable power over me, and I have no democratic recourse to affect change. This is of course because I live in Northern Ireland, where for all intents and purposes, we are still in the eu. Have a look at some of the pedantic rules being enforced, yesterday we heard of a digger not allowed to travel from GB to NI because there was some dirt under the floor mat, and this would contaminate the whole eu, even though the end destination was within the country where the journey started!
You do have my sympathies. NI really does seem to have the worst of everything out of this.

The EU will do everything they can to make Brexit as difficult as they can because they don’t want it and need it not to work.

Many in the UK didn’t want Brexit, but we now need to make it work because there is no other option.
Fridays “little mistake” by “some minion” has helped many regretful remainers in the UK move on.

No doubt Friday’s incident is being swept under the carpet as fast as possible, but I won’t forget it, and nor will many of my friends who voted mainly remain.

It wasn’t "a minion" who accidentally slipped the “mistake” into the “draft” regulation, it was the head of the EU commission and it was approved by her cabinet before release, and it wasn’t a draft.
 
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czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
You do have my sympathies. NI really does seem to have the worst of everything out of this.
The EU will do everything they can to make Brexit as difficult as they can because they don’t want it and need it not to work. Many in the UK didn’t want Brexit, but we now need to make it work because there is no other option.
Fridays “little mistake” by “some minion” has helped many regretful remainers in the UK move on.
No doubt Friday’s incident is being swept under the carpet as fast as possible, but I won’t forget it, and nor will many of my friends who voted mainly remain.
It wasn’t a minion who accidentally slipped the “mistake” into the “draft” regulation, it was the head of the EU commission and it was approved by her cabinet before release, and it wasn’t a draft.


It was a bad few days, for sure.
Nothing like as bad as Cummings lying about eye tests in the Downing Street garden but will that alter the way anyone votes when it comes to it?
I couldn’t bring myself to vote libs because I thought Swindon was awful, not because Jerremy Thorpe was trying to have ex boy friends assassinated 🤷‍♂️
We’re all goldfish
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
It was a bad few days, for sure.
Nothing like as bad as Cummings lying about eye tests in the Downing Street garden but will that alter the way anyone votes when it comes to it?
I couldn’t bring myself to vote libs because I thought Swindon was awful, not because Jerremy Thorpe was trying to have ex boy friends assassinated 🤷‍♂️
We’re all goldfish
Hmm...
 
Away back under your rock, Matthew. She tried to stop vaccines coming to our country. It has emerged that some vaccine was in transit to Northern Ireland on Friday via the republic, which is probably why there was panic. It was I’ll advised, and it was wrong.
Also, although I don’t live in the eu, and don’t elect any MEPs, this woman and her commission have considerable power over me, and I have no democratic recourse to affect change. This is of course because I live in Northern Ireland, where for all intents and purposes, we are still in the eu. Have a look at some of the pedantic rules being enforced, yesterday we heard of a digger not allowed to travel from GB to NI because there was some dirt under the floor mat, and this would contaminate the whole eu, even though the end destination was within the country where the journey started!
You are mistaken, I do not live under a rock. I am proud to live in France part of the European Union.
 

robs1

Member
It's quite simple, you're a third country. You had 12 months transition and did nothing.
You're not buying the ski pass. You can't use the lift!
Nobody is arguing that we are a third country but there are changes over time when products change etc and there is acting like a spoilt child, funny how we dont have these problems selling or buying from the rest of the world, however businesses will find away through these issues
 

Ncap

Member
Nobody is arguing that we are a third country but there are changes over time when products change etc and there is acting like a spoilt child, funny how we dont have these problems selling or buying from the rest of the world, however businesses will find away through these issues
Don't be so hard on yourself. Yes there is an element of spoilt child in the way you rant at no longer having access to what you took to be your birthright and which now, as a third country, you don't get. But you will get over it, I'm sure. As soon as valliant, disgraced former defence secretary Fox gets off his fat behind and secures (sorry 'strikes' ) more of those trade deals with distant nations for our innovative jam products.
 

robs1

Member
Don't be so hard on yourself. Yes there is an element of spoilt child in the way you rant at no longer having access to what you took to be your birthright and which now, as a third country, you don't get. But you will get over it, I'm sure. As soon as valliant, disgraced former defence secretary Fox gets off his fat behind and secures (sorry 'strikes' ) more of those trade deals with distant nations for our innovative jam products.
Strangely we have moved on from fox.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
It was a bad few days, for sure.
Nothing like as bad as Cummings lying about eye tests in the Downing Street garden but will that alter the way anyone votes when it comes to it?
I couldn’t bring myself to vote libs because I thought Swindon was awful, not because Jerremy Thorpe was trying to have ex boy friends assassinated 🤷‍♂️
We’re all goldfish

Oh dear C that is spin. There is nothing comparable between an individual such as Cummings being a dick and a calculated decision by an organisation representing collectively 27 Sovereign countries dealing with the external relations with another Sovereign country, with what was in effect the triggering of an act of War. You are either trying to sweep it under the carpet - and I understand why, or you truly believe what you write, in which case in my opinion you are fail to appreciate the significance of the difference.

As B'oB says the EU attitude was that moment when you realise after a divorce one side has moved on. Those in the UK who recently suggested starting a rejoin campaign had their boat well and truly torpedoed by there friends at the weekend. The English Channel deepened and widened.

Hey ho onwards we go.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Don't be so hard on yourself. Yes there is an element of spoilt child in the way you rant at no longer having access to what you took to be your birthright and which now, as a third country, you don't get. But you will get over it, I'm sure. As soon as valliant, disgraced former defence secretary Fox gets off his fat behind and secures (sorry 'strikes' ) more of those trade deals with distant nations for our innovative jam products.
You clearly have your finger on the beating pulse of current affairs...

A speechless clan, well there’s an achievement 😂
Not really, you are waaaaaay behind Mrs Danllan. (y) :rolleyes:
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Oh dear C that is spin. There is nothing comparable between an individual such as Cummings being a dick and a calculated decision by an organisation representing collectively 27 Sovereign countries dealing with the external relations with another Sovereign country, with what was in effect the triggering of an act of War. You are either trying to sweep it under the carpet - and I understand why, or you truly believe what you write, in which case in my opinion you are fail to appreciate the significance of the difference.

As B'oB says the EU attitude was that moment when you realise after a divorce one side has moved on. Those in the UK who recently suggested starting a rejoin campaign had their boat well and truly torpedoed by there friends at the weekend. The English Channel deepened and widened.

Hey ho onwards we go.

It’ll pass👍
U.K. public opinion isn’t important anymore. You left, if you recall😂
 

Ashtree

Member
Oh dear C that is spin. There is nothing comparable between an individual such as Cummings being a dick and a calculated decision by an organisation representing collectively 27 Sovereign countries dealing with the external relations with another Sovereign country, with what was in effect the triggering of an act of War. You are either trying to sweep it under the carpet - and I understand why, or you truly believe what you write, in which case in my opinion you are fail to appreciate the significance of the difference.

As B'oB says the EU attitude was that moment when you realise after a divorce one side has moved on. Those in the UK who recently suggested starting a rejoin campaign had their boat well and truly torpedoed by there friends at the weekend. The English Channel deepened and widened.

Hey ho onwards we go.

You are correct. However there is everything comparable between the protocol faux pas, and the internal market bill faux pas!
Deuce!! Next two consecutive points crucial!
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Another foot in gob statement from Arsula .

“It is true that other countries started earlier, but we preferred safety to shortcuts,” she told La Repubblica.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

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