Dr Ursula von der Leyen

Should she stay or should she go?


  • Total voters
    45

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Nah, she screwed it up right royally. Buggered around with procurement; tried a regimental reorganisation which was a major morale killer; didn't control spending or recruitment or retention. And, worst of all, she made promotion to high senior rank a thing dependent on interview with the Defence Minister - the very last thing that a politician should do, because it stops the military speaking truth to power, they just tell them what they want to hear!

I've a chum I was a Bar School with who is an officer in their equivalent of the TA - and a fervent Merkel fan too - and have had it all from him. He's got no political axe to grind, but can't stand the woman on the basis of what she did and tried to do.
If he's your mate , that figures he'd share the same views. Any centrist is a commie etc.
Why's she still big buddies with Merkel?
Let me guess ,Merkel's a commie too.
 
lets hope the eu keep her the more she messes up the better
Whether it's Europe or here these people rarely get fired for failure and even when they do just go quiet for 6 months and reappear in an even better job.
Brexit will cause huge problems here and there for these clones combined with the transparency and accountability due to the wider internet. They are not happy people.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
I just don't understand the calls for her resignation and people wondering why Angela Merkel dispatched an incompetent politician to Brussels in the 1st place. Just remember the calibre of people the UK nominated to be EU commissioners such as Neil Kinnock, Chris Patten, Peter Mandelson and Leon Brittan. All people the prime minister of the day felt a loyalty to, but wanted as far away as possible due to either their uselessness or the embarrassment factor of having them close at hand.

But also just remember the bunch of lazy absentee idiots the public voted to represent them in Europe. :banghead:

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But also just remember the bunch of lazy absentee idiots the public voted to represent them in Europe. :banghead:

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They were voted in as an example of the crassness of the organisation and the main aim was to get us out. Brussels should have woken up and smelled the roses then and offered Cameron something substantial to take back. Now we have Barnier offering us a partial way back in. Horse has gone pal however the stable door is still open so stop throwing grenades through it.
 
And they did that by doing a really crap job and then convincing the UK public that it was all the fault of those nasty foreigners in the EU.
The whole organisation was and is a disaster . We joined a common market which had good and bad points however Maastricht and Lisbon treaties were a political disaster that is only now being found out by more than us.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The whole organisation was and is a disaster . We joined a common market which had good and bad points however Maastricht and Lisbon treaties were a political disaster that is only now being found out by more than us.
Funny how it's not been a disaster for the other 27 countries, nor was it for the UK as they always opted out of anything they didn't fancy.
 
Funny how it's not been a disaster for the other 27 countries, nor was it for the UK as they always opted out of anything they didn't fancy.
We should never have opted in and we paid too much for the privilege. There are schisms appearing in the 27 and have been for a while. Brussels idea of political homogeny is and has come unstuck. We want to do business with you and vice versa but care needs to be taken that it doesn't become a war of tit for tat. We buy more from you so the pain may not be equal.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
I admit it's caused me a bit of inconvenience, but nothing like it's causing UK businesses many who will probably end up going bankrupt. Some job eh!
Fudge business.
The country is it's people.
Business has to operate under conditions that prevail.
If businesses don't like it..they have a choice.
Accept the conditions or fudge off.
And far from going bankrupt.
Most businesses will adapt to the conditions.
You underestimate British business operators.
 
Funny how it's not been a disaster for the other 27 countries, nor was it for the UK as they always opted out of anything they didn't fancy.
it is a disaster when the vaccine procurement is so far behind what it could have been if they had gone at it with the intent to gat started in 2020 rather than we will be alright waiting till 2021

they could have been 15 % vaccintated by now and completed by the summer holidays
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
it is a disaster when the vaccine procurement is so far behind what it could have been if they had gone at it with the intent to gat started in 2020 rather than we will be alright waiting till 2021

they could have been 15 % vaccintated by now and completed by the summer holidays
It makes no difference overall. You can't conjurer up extra vaccine from nowhere. Big pharma oversold it's capacity to produce in order to secure contracts with countries.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Fudge business.
The country is it's people.
Business has to operate under conditions that prevail.
If businesses don't like it..they have a choice.
Accept the conditions or fudge off.
And far from going bankrupt.
Most businesses will adapt to the conditions.
You underestimate British business operators.

I am sure the CBI will welcome your suggestions.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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