Blood sucking ahdb

what is more suspicious is 24 hours before the end of the ballot the turnout was 58% then at the end it was 69% ,did so many levy payers really wait till the last minute to vote.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
My bad.

But the point remains the same - in order to do that analysis someone has to know how individual voters voted and marry that to levy amounts paid. The question how many people (and what organisations) know this information, and will it get to the AHDB either formally or on the sly somehow?

Well, the polling company have told Simon that they don't pass that information on, so it must be them that does it. Given that they were the ones that reported the Horti results (which includes that information), that makes sense.
 
I am not a potato grower and I have attended two of the potato town halls live and watched a third on you tube. I am also not a vegetable grower or even a horticulture levy payer but I attended one of the Hortic Town Hall meetings. Anyone can join in as far as I can see.
Yes hindsight but you wouldn’t be allowed to ask a question.
 
I see David Stewart has said that he cannot see any Scottish seed producers voting to keep the ahdb , even if they manage to cheat us out of the ballot result I cannot see how staff can return to work ( whenever that is they have been sat at home for nearly a year as anybody noticed) with any sort of moral knowing they are not wanted, or will they just think it’s all about the money anyway.
 

Hindsight

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I see David Stewart has said that he cannot see any Scottish seed producers voting to keep the ahdb , even if they manage to cheat us out of the ballot result I cannot see how staff can return to work ( whenever that is they have been sat at home for nearly a year as anybody noticed) with any sort of moral knowing they are not wanted, or will they just think it’s all about the money anyway.

Do you know from speaking to any potato growers if they are receiving any guidance from end users (their customers) on how to vote? I am not that close to know. I just wondered if the like of McCain, Walkers, Greenvale, Branston etc might have a view on their preferred outcome of the ballot and be passing that onto contracted growers? Was there any similar comment in the Horticulture sector ballot from customers?
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
I see David Stewart has said that he cannot see any Scottish seed producers voting to keep the ahdb , even if they manage to cheat us out of the ballot result I cannot see how staff can return to work ( whenever that is they have been sat at home for nearly a year as anybody noticed) with any sort of moral knowing they are not wanted, or will they just think it’s all about the money anyway.

Writes the man who has worked from home his entire life.
 
Do you know from speaking to any potato growers if they are receiving any guidance from end users (their customers) on how to vote? I am not that close to know. I just wondered if the like of McCain, Walkers, Greenvale, Branston etc might have a view on their preferred outcome of the ballot and be passing that onto contracted growers? Was there any similar comment in the Horticulture sector ballot from customers?
I haven’t received any adverse comments regarding what you are asking hindsight, I myself have not had any ,a lot of our customers think if we are not burdened down by unnecessary costs they might get the end product cheaper.
 

Hindsight

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I haven’t received any adverse comments regarding what you are asking hindsight, I myself have not had any ,a lot of our customers think if we are not burdened down by unnecessary costs they might get the end product cheaper.

Is that statement I have highlighted in bold not only ironic but bizarre.

You have fought to remove the burden of the AHDB Horticulture levy from your business, which you have if I recall is some £30,000 per annum - correct me if I am wrong. You and your colleagues rallied support, forced a ballot and it would have appear won, subject to the Ministers approval. Yet are prepared and by sounds of it looking forward to giving that saving to your customers.

No wonder UK Farming is fecked.

If that is what you intend doing then may I say it looks rather as though your fight to get rid of AHDB Horticulture has less to do with the cost of the levy itself, but the very concept of the organisation and the staff employed by it.

It will be surely truly a pyrrhic victory to save 0.5% turnover tax (the levy) to merely pass it over to Lidl/Aldi/Tesco etc. But nothing would surprise me in the veg world.

Best wishes. I look forward to the next chapter in this saga, or maybe Greek Tragedy.
 

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
This is the problem. Pictures taken 3.30 this afternoon Potatoes washed prepack with retail price point equivalent to £396 tonne at the retail point. So these potatoes have been delivered to a packer, washed and packed, delivered to Morrisons depot and then to the actual Supermarket and placed on the store shelf. And I doubt Morrisons are losing on the sale. And thus why free buy Whites are £60 tonne ex farm. Saving a bit of AHDB levy might help (?!) but ain't gonna be the game changer. Especially if you then give the levy to Morrisons. Ah well.
 

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HAM135

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This is the problem. Pictures taken 3.30 this afternoon Potatoes washed prepack with retail price point equivalent to £396 tonne at the retail point. So these potatoes have been delivered to a packer, washed and packed, delivered to Morrisons depot and then to the actual Supermarket and placed on the store shelf. And I doubt Morrisons are losing on the sale. And thus why free buy Whites are £60 tonne ex farm. Saving a bit of AHDB levy might help (?!) but ain't gonna be the game changer. Especially if you then give the levy to Morrisons. Ah well.
Totally agree but what are AHDB doing about this,this has been going on for years,if they could change things it should have been done long ago.
 
Is that statement I have highlighted in bold not only ironic but bizarre.

You have fought to remove the burden of the AHDB Horticulture levy from your business, which you have if I recall is some £30,000 per annum - correct me if I am wrong. You and your colleagues rallied support, forced a ballot and it would have appear won, subject to the Ministers approval. Yet are prepared and by sounds of it looking forward to giving that saving to your customers.

No wonder UK Farming is fecked.

If that is what you intend doing then may I say it looks rather as though your fight to get rid of AHDB Horticulture has less to do with the cost of the levy itself, but the very concept of the organisation and the staff employed by it.

It will be surely truly a pyrrhic victory to save 0.5% turnover tax (the levy) to merely pass it over to Lidl/Aldi/Tesco etc. But nothing would surprise me in the veg world.

Best wishes. I look forward to the next chapter in this saga, or maybe Greek Tragedy.
Hindsight I am afraid you have a very simplistic view of what goes on let me assure you nothing is simple growing veg.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
If he is like most farmers he don't work from home he lives at work.
its a relatively new and rather stupid thing to live a long way from work

Lives at work applies to most of the office based work at home people now too, and it’s not a nice way to be when the furthest you can get away from your work is 30 yards and two doors. It’s no fun when you’re doing it, I know, so folks who do need to be sympathised with and not slagged off as WR has been doing - implying they aren’t doing anything when the evidence is there that they are.
 

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