White rabbit
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what is more suspicious is 24 hours before the end of the ballot the turnout was 58% then at the end it was 69% ,did so many levy payers really wait till the last minute to vote.
My bad.
But the point remains the same - in order to do that analysis someone has to know how individual voters voted and marry that to levy amounts paid. The question how many people (and what organisations) know this information, and will it get to the AHDB either formally or on the sly somehow?
Yes hindsight but you wouldn’t be allowed to ask a question.I am not a potato grower and I have attended two of the potato town halls live and watched a third on you tube. I am also not a vegetable grower or even a horticulture levy payer but I attended one of the Hortic Town Hall meetings. Anyone can join in as far as I can see.
Just for clarification my question to UK Engage related to data for the potato ballot only.Well, the polling company have told Simon that they don't pass that information on, so it must be them that does it. Given that they were the ones that reported the Horti results (which includes that information), that makes sense.
Just for clarification my question to UK Engage related to data for the potato ballot only.
Yes hindsight but you wouldn’t be allowed to ask a question.
I see David Stewart has said that he cannot see any Scottish seed producers voting to keep the ahdb , even if they manage to cheat us out of the ballot result I cannot see how staff can return to work ( whenever that is they have been sat at home for nearly a year as anybody noticed) with any sort of moral knowing they are not wanted, or will they just think it’s all about the money anyway.
I see David Stewart has said that he cannot see any Scottish seed producers voting to keep the ahdb , even if they manage to cheat us out of the ballot result I cannot see how staff can return to work ( whenever that is they have been sat at home for nearly a year as anybody noticed) with any sort of moral knowing they are not wanted, or will they just think it’s all about the money anyway.
Well that must go down as the most stupid remark you have ever made on here.Writes the man who has worked from home his entire life.
I haven’t received any adverse comments regarding what you are asking hindsight, I myself have not had any ,a lot of our customers think if we are not burdened down by unnecessary costs they might get the end product cheaper.Do you know from speaking to any potato growers if they are receiving any guidance from end users (their customers) on how to vote? I am not that close to know. I just wondered if the like of McCain, Walkers, Greenvale, Branston etc might have a view on their preferred outcome of the ballot and be passing that onto contracted growers? Was there any similar comment in the Horticulture sector ballot from customers?
you have got it one. Ham 135Cast my vote,as a small grower I need to trim all unnecesary costs out of the job or I will have to stop growing,personally I get no benefit from ahdb,some may but if they wish it to continue let them make it a subscription service not mandatory.
I haven’t received any adverse comments regarding what you are asking hindsight, I myself have not had any ,a lot of our customers think if we are not burdened down by unnecessary costs they might get the end product cheaper.
If he is like most farmers he don't work from home he lives at work.Writes the man who has worked from home his entire life.
Totally agree but what are AHDB doing about this,this has been going on for years,if they could change things it should have been done long ago.This is the problem. Pictures taken 3.30 this afternoon Potatoes washed prepack with retail price point equivalent to £396 tonne at the retail point. So these potatoes have been delivered to a packer, washed and packed, delivered to Morrisons depot and then to the actual Supermarket and placed on the store shelf. And I doubt Morrisons are losing on the sale. And thus why free buy Whites are £60 tonne ex farm. Saving a bit of AHDB levy might help (?!) but ain't gonna be the game changer. Especially if you then give the levy to Morrisons. Ah well.
Hindsight I am afraid you have a very simplistic view of what goes on let me assure you nothing is simple growing veg.Is that statement I have highlighted in bold not only ironic but bizarre.
You have fought to remove the burden of the AHDB Horticulture levy from your business, which you have if I recall is some £30,000 per annum - correct me if I am wrong. You and your colleagues rallied support, forced a ballot and it would have appear won, subject to the Ministers approval. Yet are prepared and by sounds of it looking forward to giving that saving to your customers.
No wonder UK Farming is fecked.
If that is what you intend doing then may I say it looks rather as though your fight to get rid of AHDB Horticulture has less to do with the cost of the levy itself, but the very concept of the organisation and the staff employed by it.
It will be surely truly a pyrrhic victory to save 0.5% turnover tax (the levy) to merely pass it over to Lidl/Aldi/Tesco etc. But nothing would surprise me in the veg world.
Best wishes. I look forward to the next chapter in this saga, or maybe Greek Tragedy.
If he is like most farmers he don't work from home he lives at work.
its a relatively new and rather stupid thing to live a long way from work