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FrasseSweden

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Sweden
The main problem Is in the bigger frame tractors, very few 6480 with have had gearbox problems ,all so the software in the newer 76 & 77 tractors is not as kind to the gearbox ,if you look at the data on them you can see as the hp goes up so the gearbox fail rate , I hope this answers your question
Thanks for the answer and I understand what you mean. But that was i never heard about it in Sweden and must ask you. But i have luck to buy Dyna VT on my last tractors i understand.
 

shumungus

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Livestock Farmer
@shumungus no not that I am aware of.
Not every tractor fails.
That's good to know, there's maybe a chance then of not exploding.
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Wellytrack

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Why the change of brand

Men would like their Deere’s, regularly buy tractors each year, they are worked hard driven by good drivers, and not without their issues but the manufacturer/Dealer looks after them.

They bought the 939 some years back, absolute fantastic thing to go and could certainly drop the acres, the machine was far from faultless though, gearbox and engine issues and again the warranty covered any problems that were incurred.

They were not prepared to run it for a second year out of warranty however.
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
poor old speedstar, he is still bitter about MF,please man up save us all some crap, every post about MF he turns into a slagging them off, Fendts are not bombproof, my local JD dealer seems to be be gaining a few all the time, 724s/720s replaced by 6250r etc
deere 6250R is a bigger tractor than any fendt 700 series so you cant class them in the same group.
 

Lofty1984

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
I am little curious beacuse i drive MF witch model you mean have a gearbox problem in Dyna 6? I understand you are a contractor so drive maybe 3 times more then me with your tractor how are a dairy farmer. My oldest Dyna 6 is a 7718 2016 and I not have had any problem, but after read what you write maybe i press my luck and need to change before a brakedown. It is intresting to hear other people experience about things.
2016 , 7718 dyna here on 7500 hours no issues with the gear box at all and it’s not had an easy life buckraking silage for allot of those hours
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
2016 , 7718 dyna here on 7500 hours no issues with the gear box at all and it’s not had an easy life buckraking silage for allot of those hours
Extremely rare for any of the smaller chassis Dyna-6 tractors giving that 3rd gear issue that does trouble the larger ones
not all by any means but some of them. having a caring operator maybes helps who knows. Its all electro robotic & should be fale-safe but there not.
Try n run one to 10000hrs n see. its often that 6000-7000hr bracket that gets some.
only saying what ive heard from folks who have had the bills & what i can learn from mechanics.
More so troublesome with the 50k version of the gbox why ive no idea.
 
Another man that never reads things right ,I have no problems with a mf with a dyna vt gearbox we have one and it is a good tractor
deere 6250R is a bigger tractor than any fendt 700 series so you cant class them in the same group.
well thats what people have changed them for !! apparently the JD is a very good tractor and better on fuel !! Time will tell
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
well thats what people have changed them for !! apparently the JD is a very good tractor and better on fuel !! Time will tell
Deere now poss the most expensive tractor on the market so i hear yet not worth as much used as the Fendt
Strange world we live in eh
Ive never driven a fendt, and have no intentions of buying one anytime soon.
but my dealer seems to be now shifting far more of them than the red tractor so what does that tell us all.
Havnt said that ive never owned a Deere but have driven various ones. nice enuff tractors.
 

Lofty1984

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Extremely rare for any of the smaller chassis Dyna-6 tractors giving that 3rd gear issue that does trouble the larger ones
not all by any means but some of them. having a caring operator maybes helps who knows. Its all electro robotic & should be fale-safe but there not.
Try n run one to 10000hrs n see. its often that 6000-7000hr bracket that gets some.
only saying what ive heard from folks who have had the bills & what i can learn from mechanics.
More so troublesome with the 50k version of the gbox why ive no idea.
Time will tell I’m sure as we have 3 large frame tractors too that will be well up in hours before they leave us 👍
 

Tractorman 2021

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Mixed Farmer
5 years in development so they tell us.
and from launch they couldnt offer a vario trans? why? there is plenty available to suit that HP bracket? AGCO owns the sister company that makes the bloody things

Why don't you look at the gearbox's that they offer. Anyone who makes statement like this clearly doesn't understand Dyna E-Power....
 

FrasseSweden

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Sweden
Why don't you look at the gearbox's that they offer. Anyone who makes statement like this clearly doesn't understand Dyna E-Power....
But here in Sweden they not start to sell Dyna E-Power before Autum. So right now that is Dyna 7. Of course i wish they had the Dyna E-Power from start and that what i discuss with "Farma Parma" but for me i not wait on it and order one with Dyna 7.

Edit: I call my seller and I have half wrong. If I wait to the Summer i could get a Dyna E-Power (28 gear) beacuse the Mother ship in Sweden have order Dyna 7. And in late Autum the Dyna VT come. Maybe this is diffrent between country and what they sell most. Here in Sweden the cheapest Dyna is the most common gearbox the farmer buy.
 
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Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
Looks fancy maybe there working on the dual clutch but hence why it’s not out, obviously not just same as existing vario!

Completely new, Dyna E-Power’s dual clutch technology combines the comfort of a CVT with the efficiency of a semi-powershift. This reduces power loss by 26% at higher speeds, saving up to 5% in fuel.

Will get even better mpg then fendt too if it’s 26percent more efficient than existing

Taken off mf website
 

FrasseSweden

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Sweden
Looks fancy maybe there working on the dual clutch but hence why it’s not out, obviously not just same as existing vario!

Completely new, Dyna E-Power’s dual clutch technology combines the comfort of a CVT with the efficiency of a semi-powershift. This reduces power loss by 26% at higher speeds, saving up to 5% in fuel.

Will get even better mpg then fendt too if it’s 26percent more efficient than existing

Taken off mf website
And the full Vario Dyna VT come in late Autum here in Sweden.
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Why don't you look at the gearbox's that they offer. Anyone who makes statement like this clearly doesn't understand Dyna E-Power....
Thats not the point its still got fixed ratios & plenty who have used various CVTs for years n years will still want a CVT regardless.
Not identifying on the side of these 8S which gbox they have seems odd as well seeing every massey since the 3000 series had either dynashift or then power control or dyna-6 or dyna-vt stamped on every single model & now they dropped it. folks on the used market will be clueless 5 years down the line as too what gbox is in them at a passing glance anyways.
the D7 & E-power might be brilliant & poss swing those away from a more power hungry CVT i dunno, only time will tell.
ive had myself every gbox massey has offered other the last 30years now & the Dyna-vt is by far the best end of.
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Thats not the point its still got fixed ratios & plenty who have used various CVTs for years n years will still want a CVT regardless.
Not identifying on the side of these 8S which gbox they have seems odd as well seeing every massey since the 3000 series had either dynashift or then power control or dyna-6 or dyna-vt stamped on every single model & now they dropped it. folks on the used market will be clueless 5 years down the line as too what gbox is in them at a passing glance anyways.
the D7 & E-power might be brilliant & poss swing those away from a more power hungry CVT i dunno, only time will tell.
ive had myself every gbox massey has offered other the last 30years now & the Dyna-vt is by far the best end of.

auto command new Holland gone here for 8s should be here in next couple days [emoji15][emoji51] not sure if I’ll cope with gears again but we will see...
 
Thats not the point its still got fixed ratios & plenty who have used various CVTs for years n years will still want a CVT regardless.
Not identifying on the side of these 8S which gbox they have seems odd as well seeing every massey since the 3000 series had either dynashift or then power control or dyna-6 or dyna-vt stamped on every single model & now they dropped it. folks on the used market will be clueless 5 years down the line as too what gbox is in them at a passing glance anyways.
the D7 & E-power might be brilliant & poss swing those away from a more power hungry CVT i dunno, only time will tell.
ive had myself every gbox massey has offered other the last 30years now & the Dyna-vt is by far the best end of.
its like the green brigade with the dd transmission :ROFLMAO: "oh yeah drives like a vario" ffs its just a smooth 21 speed transmission
 

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