Triton direct seed drill

warksfarmer · Mar 6, 2021

goodevans said:
So what is it that makes the closing blade brilliant,is it because it is a blade as opposed to a tine?

Erm that’s a good question. For me it’s a combination of where it runs, between two seeding tines so it’s side pressing soil over the open slots which no press wheel on the market can do.
Also it’s creating a drainage channel at the same time as covering the seed.

In really wet conditions you can lift them up so they run at the same depth as the seeding tine, which still covers the seed, but drastically reduces the draft albeit your then not creating the drainage channel but it does mean your seeding when other drills are parked up.

I’ve drilled a field today that has spent all winter under water from the adjacent river. I walked it yesterday and looking at the forecast decide today was our only chance at getting wheat in as it’s was -3 last night here. It’s not pretty and there’s a couple of wet areas I’ve drilled through that probably won’t grow but 98% of the field is in.
Genuinely don’t think I could of pulled a plough or sumo type machine through it and even if I did it would of create lumps and more work.

You can see in the pics the tractor wheel marks as it was tough going. I couldn’t get above 8km/hour with a 230hp tractor on a 3m but I was running the closing blades deep to help surface drainage.

The slots you can see are not seed tine slots which people commonly mistake them for. Those are the closing blade slots. The seed is fully covered.

goodevans · Mar 6, 2021

warksfarmer said:
Erm that’s a good question. For me it’s a combination of where it runs, between two seeding tines so it’s side pressing soil over the open slots which no press wheel on the market can do.
Also it’s creating a drainage channel at the same time as covering the seed.

In really wet conditions you can lift them up so they run at the same depth as the seeding tine, which still covers the seed, but drastically reduces the draft albeit your then not creating the drainage channel but it does mean your seeding when other drills are parked up.

I’ve drilled a field today that has spent all winter under water from the adjacent river. I walked it yesterday and looking at the forecast decide today was our only chance at getting wheat in as it’s was -3 last night here. It’s not pretty and there’s a couple of wet areas I’ve drilled through that probably won’t grow but 98% of the field is in.
Genuinely don’t think I could of pulled a plough or sumo type machine through it and even if I did it would of create lumps and more work.

You can see in the pics the tractor wheel marks as it was tough going. I couldn’t get above 8km/hour with a 230hp tractor on a 3m but I was running the closing blades deep to help surface drainage.

The slots you can see are not seed tine slots which people commonly mistake them for. Those are the closing blade slots. The seed is fully covered.

So in effect it is a cultivator drill in reverse,seeding first and cultivating second as opposed to the traditional mindset

warksfarmer · Mar 6, 2021

goodevans said:
So in effect it is a cultivator drill in reverse,seeding first and cultivating second as opposed to the traditional mindset

Wouldn’t say ‘cultivator’ drill when it can do this, but yes your correct saying it’s reversed.

warksfarmer · Mar 6, 2021

Tried it direct into some AB9 stewardship mix as well today.

clbarclay · Mar 6, 2021

How deep do you aim to run the closing tines in relation to the tip of the seeding tines or seeding depth? (conditions allowing)

warksfarmer · Mar 7, 2021

clbarclay said:
How deep do you aim to run the closing tines in relation to the tip of the seeding tines or seeding depth? (conditions allowing)

No set depth but at the moment in the early days of using the drill as deep as possible, then once the drills been round everywhere it’ll be shallowed up to eventually about 1/2 inch of the seeding blades. Then only deepened if we’ve rutting from harvest traffic.

Billboy1 · Mar 7, 2021

warksfarmer said:
Tried it direct into some AB9 stewardship mix as well today.

That looks like wet plasticine! Is it ?is the seed safe if we get rain after ?

Spencer · Mar 7, 2021

You’d be in for a hiding to nowhere if you did that up here... seed would just rot ..

clbarclay · Mar 7, 2021

warksfarmer said:
No set depth but at the moment in the early days of using the drill as deep as possible, then once the drills been round everywhere it’ll be shallowed up to eventually about 1/2 inch of the seeding blades. Then only deepened if we’ve rutting from harvest traffic.

Deeper than I first though.

warksfarmer · Mar 7, 2021

Billboy1 said:
That looks like wet plasticine! Is it ?is the seed safe if we get rain after ?

Yes that is some snotty crap that’s spent the winter under water. I just tried it as I was near it. When I drill this with a new AB9 mix it’ll get the topper first then some glyphosate. Then I’ll go direct with the Triton like we did last year but in May so it’ll be much drier by then. It grew very well.

And yes the Triton always leaves the seed safe if you can travel properly at speed to get the closing blades to work. If your slipping around then no it’s to wet.

Billboy1 · Mar 7, 2021

warksfarmer said:
Yes that is some snotty crap that’s spent the winter under water. I just tried it as I was near it. When I drill this with a new AB9 mix it’ll get the topper first then some glyphosate. Then I’ll go direct with the Triton like we did last year but in May so it’ll be much drier by then. It grew very well.

And yes the Triton always leaves the seed safe if you can travel properly at speed to get the closing blades to work. If your slipping around then no it’s to wet.

Be interesting what it comes like

alomy75 · Mar 8, 2021

As before; the metalwork side of the Triton is really interesting... couple of queries; although covered, is the seed pressed down without a packer to help against slugs and secondly; I’m assuming as it moves literally the entire soil profile (width-wise) it’s not going to help blackgrass populations?

warksfarmer · Mar 9, 2021

alomy75 said:
As before; the metalwork side of the Triton is really interesting... couple of queries; although covered, is the seed pressed down without a packer to help against slugs and secondly; I’m assuming as it moves literally the entire soil profile (width-wise) it’s not going to help blackgrass populations?

see post 1423. Hardly moved anything planting osr.

Alistair Nelson · Mar 9, 2021

How thick are the Blades Lee 15mm?

warksfarmer · Mar 9, 2021

Alistair Nelson said:
How thick are the Blades Lee 15mm?

At a guess yes but I’ll measure and let you know.

warksfarmer · Mar 24, 2021

Pics 1-3November wheat
Pics 2-4 October triticale

warksfarmer · Mar 27, 2021

Spring wheat coming through cover crops (sewage cake applied and DD’ed) and ploughing (after maize and sewage cake applied)

ajd132 · Mar 27, 2021

I think a mounted 6m triton with a front tank which can also be used with my avatar would be a really good addition to our drilling fleet. It would be excellent insurance if anything....

warksfarmer · Mar 27, 2021

ajd132 said:
I think a mounted 6m triton with a front tank which can also be used with my avatar would be a really good addition to our drilling fleet. It would be excellent insurance if anything....

Be careful you’ll end up parking your Horsch stuff up

warksfarmer · Mar 31, 2021

Triton direct drilled into mustard and after stubble turnips and sheep grazing.

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