We don’t find the original tube a problem on beans as we’re running a lot deeper . These tubes are for wheat only as they are quite narrow and it’s the wheat that we want to try and get a little more uniform depth .Bob, Have a look at a KRM sola 1909 coulter, it looks a similar width to the tine like your version. Placement is good in the slot.
i think you are on the right path, assuming big seed such as winter beans can flow freely?
Probably would be good on both though... How wide is the exit tubing roughly?We don’t find the original tube a problem on beans as we’re running a lot deeper . These tubes are for wheat only as they are quite narrow and it’s the wheat that we want to try and get a little more uniform depth .
12 mm but we could make them any widthProbably would be good on both though... How wide is the exit tubing roughly?
Think you would probably want 15mm plus for winter beans? Just thinking aloud, but its always nice to not have to change tubes etc too often.I like your thinking though! We have adapted an LD4000 Weaving subsoiler for OSR and cover crops recently, and are experimenting with the std weaving tubes at the moment,hence my interest.12 mm but we could make them any width
That would be breaching Tritons patent,it would be very interesting if Weavings had marketed the TritonCould you weld a 'landslide" onto the back of the tine so it went under the seed tube to interrupt the seeds flow and stop it reaching the bottom of the slot ?
I’m not to worried about changing the tubes as it’s quite a quick job . I have got one tube that we have pressed to a 5mm opening to see if it would flatten that much or split , I thought it would be good for OSR or small seeds .Think you would probably want 15mm plus for winter beans? Just thinking aloud, but its always nice to not have to change tubes etc too often.I like your thinking though! We have adapted an LD4000 Weaving subsoiler for OSR and cover crops recently, and are experimenting with the std weaving tubes at the moment,hence my interest.
Are you going to run the drill straight into undisturbed stubble when drilling the wheat?No not with Weavings these are my own design . We find that having to run the tines deeper than we would like some seed does end up in the bottom but we’re hoping with these tubes the tine can be run shallower and it won’t be a problem .
Yes we’re going to do some direct or behind an LD tine .Are you going to run the drill straight into undisturbed stubble when drilling the wheat?
Ah so without much loose soil you will need the tine around the same depth you want the seed placed.Yes we’re going to do some direct or behind an LD tine .
Ah so without much loose soil you will need the tine around the same depth you want the seed placed.
Have you had chance to do much with these seed tubes yet? How have they done?12 mm but we could make them any width
No we didn’t get chance to they were delivered to late .Have you had chance to do much with these seed tubes yet? How have they done?
We use the Sabre tine conversion of a KV cultivator that @Bob lincs made. Row spacing is wider than we would have chosen, but the results look good so far in its first season. It will even clear a small heap of maize stalks run down when opening out a headland. Weaving are taking back the Caddy and supplying a new front hopper to make us a bit more manoeverable.Has anyone used a sabre tine to drill winter cereals after maize?
Assuming the foraging team doesn’t make too much of a mess, I am considering going straight in with the sabre tine to drill barley and rye.
My main concern is whether the drill will cope with the maize stalks and root balls without blocking, especially as mine is the plastic hopper 3 rows of tines model.
Any advice gratefully received!
Thanks - that is very reassuring. Beans look good. If it can cope with putting beans in quite deep, it should be ok with shallower cereals.We use the Sabre tine conversion of a KV cultivator that @Bob lincs made. Row spacing is wider than we would have chosen, but the results look good so far in its first season. It will even clear a small heap of maize stalks run down when opening out a headland. Weaving are taking back the Caddy and supplying a new front hopper to make us a bit more manoeverable.
This photo is actually cover crop going in, no photos of winter barley going in I am afraid
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Winter beans put in under less than ideal conditions in a very wet autumn with the Sabre tine
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I drilled wheat with the sabre tine last year into maize ground that had been cultivated once with the joker with tine bar. Had a few issues with maize stalks and root balls not flowing very well but managed to get it done and looks good now.We ploughed and power harrowed behind maize and followed (briefly) with our sabre tine this year. We aimed to do the maize like this as a mounted drill would cope if it was wetter. We failed! The loose maize stalks wrapped around the coulter and blocked the outlet within meters. Perhaps if we were going deeper then the counter opening would have been deeper and we would have coped. Perhaps we should have not cultivated but as a first timer after maize worried about fusarium - perhaps worried too much - so ploughing seemed sense. We did try and change the counter angle but I think we guessed wrong in our adjustments - we thought perhaps it was too loose and puffy and we should have adjusted for too much trash. We drilled it with the Vaderstad which worked fine as the disc cut through and it was dry enough but establishment is not as good as we would like. We drilled spring beans this spring into worked and rolled ground from the autumn. It worked really well and put the seed in deeper than we could with the Rapid so more thought needed this autumn after maize! We like the drill a lot but we need to work out where to use and when to get the most out of it.