Sewerage dumped in rivers
- Thread starter Lofty1984
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Netherfield
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- Location
- West Yorkshire
No backsplash though.
we have a sewer main going across some of our land with some manholes coming up, the main sewer pipe is about 6ft down in the ground, but when it rains heavy, the sewer soon rises and sewage pours out of the manhole covers then overflows into the river? been looked at a few times but getting more common as more and more properties are built and connected on ?
ollie989898
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Weld them down?
Too right... MIght be a tad extreme welding them, but a concrete railway sleeper would do nicely, with aim of reducing pollution to @bluebell's property...
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
Same at the bottom end of one of our fields. 'Water' pressure blows the manhole lid off when it rains = every winter.
This manhole 3m from the stream.
Yorkshire Water say they are aware and monitoring the situation.
We sold the field.
- Location
- Cumbria
Climate change I'm afraid, When everywhere is flooded and the water is above the height of the downstairs loo, where will it go. No way the treatment companies can provide sufficient storage.
It's Bio-Bogs next I'm afraid
We'll have roses the size of footballs !!
It's Bio-Bogs next I'm afraid
We'll have roses the size of footballs !!
HolzKopf
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- Location
- Kent&Snuffit
You're bang on with this post @Foxhollow - all true
The only thing you missed out was the short branch line into the Thames Tunnel from the Houses of Parliament. All the sh*t that comes out of there can now go straight down........
FonterraFarmer
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- Location
- Waikato, New Zealand
Eh??? While it might be a monumental problem with no easy solution , you just can't ignore the situation and do nothing, you have to start somewhere.
Given the financial ability of a city like London then surely not they would have any problems financially in sorting out their sewerage disposal and treatment?
Doing it for the kids
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you say that but how do you do it!?
every house would have to re route perhaps 4 down pipes into a new surface water pipe that would have to be dug into every street. You would have to get the falls right, you may have to go through their kitchen floors to get from back to front.
SUDS tries to tackle this on new builds and extensions but in London every cm2 counts which compounds the problem
It may be easier to use the sewerage system for clean water and replace the sewerage system, perhaps a collection service?!
- Location
- sw scotland
Scottish Water is fined £19,000 for allowing untreated sewage into the Clyde for 3 weeks due to a faulty valve.
They released 650,000m3 which is 130 million gallons.
Put another way, that is 250 farms like ours releasing a year of stored slurry in 3 weeks. Not just onto the ground, directly into the river.
And we worry about a cow standing in a burn?
They released 650,000m3 which is 130 million gallons.
Put another way, that is 250 farms like ours releasing a year of stored slurry in 3 weeks. Not just onto the ground, directly into the river.
And we worry about a cow standing in a burn?
FonterraFarmer
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- Location
- Waikato, New Zealand
A, It's not my problem!!!
B, Do you really expect an uneducated, antipodean ,unsubsidised peasant farmer with no cabed tractors to have all the answer FOC ?
C, It's the council's responsibility to stipulate required standards and if required provide solutions.
Doing it for the kids
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Councils barely existed when the houses causing some of the problem were built.
modern standards are very different
modern standards are very different
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A good shooting hide!
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
It is probable that a farmer would get a higher fine than Scottish Water [a regular offender] and a clean-up bill on top. Especially if someone planted [found] a dead fish, then it becomes almost a hanging offence.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Hot off the press today and on Panorama apparently is this...
Water companies have been illegally dumping untreated sewage into rivers in England and Wales, an investigation by BBC Panorama has found.
Data analysed by the programme showed some companies have regularly breached the conditions in their permits.
Treatment works are only allowed to put sewage into waterways after wet weather and when they are close to capacity.
Not news to most of us of course. Not even that they can actually do so legally after wet weather and when they are close to capacity. Why is it I wonder that they can get away with this and have done for ever, even the illegal dumping which is very commonplace and repeated regularly, when farmers who have accidents once in a literal blue moon are hit with swingeing fines and can actually lose a significant chunk of their income as well as being shut down completely by farm assurance? Along with being named and shamed in local and national press. It makes me spit blood!
Water companies illegally dumping sewage in England and Wales' rivers
Treatment works are allowed to release sewage into waterways after heavy rain to stop it backing up.
www.bbc.co.uk
Water companies have been illegally dumping untreated sewage into rivers in England and Wales, an investigation by BBC Panorama has found.
Data analysed by the programme showed some companies have regularly breached the conditions in their permits.
Treatment works are only allowed to put sewage into waterways after wet weather and when they are close to capacity.
Not news to most of us of course. Not even that they can actually do so legally after wet weather and when they are close to capacity. Why is it I wonder that they can get away with this and have done for ever, even the illegal dumping which is very commonplace and repeated regularly, when farmers who have accidents once in a literal blue moon are hit with swingeing fines and can actually lose a significant chunk of their income as well as being shut down completely by farm assurance? Along with being named and shamed in local and national press. It makes me spit blood!
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
You have to wonder where the heck the Environment Agency are in all this.Hot off the press today and on Panorama apparently is this...
Water companies illegally dumping sewage in England and Wales' rivers
Treatment works are allowed to release sewage into waterways after heavy rain to stop it backing up.www.bbc.co.uk
Water companies have been illegally dumping untreated sewage into rivers in England and Wales, an investigation by BBC Panorama has found.
Data analysed by the programme showed some companies have regularly breached the conditions in their permits.
Treatment works are only allowed to put sewage into waterways after wet weather and when they are close to capacity.
Not news to most of us of course. Not even that they can actually do so legally after wet weather and when they are close to capacity. Why is it I wonder that they can get away with this and have done for ever, even the illegal dumping which is very commonplace and repeated regularly, when farmers who have accidents once in a literal blue moon are hit with swingeing fines and can actually lose a significant chunk of their income as well as being shut down completely by farm assurance? Along with being named and shamed in local and national press. It makes me spit blood!
Farming in an NVZ I have to keep records and have had an inspection to check everything is as it’s supposed to be.
If Panorama can get access to this information then surely the Environment Agency could too
I did note a comment in that programme that one sewage works was investing money and should be compliant by 2025. I very much doubt that approach would be deemed acceptable in agriculture it would be do something immediately along with fines for any pollution caused.
The farmer would be expected to find the money to comply or be put out of buisness, yet for the sewage companies I don’t see the share holders stumping up the cash nor the directors taking a cut in their probably quite significant salaries and putting them out of buisness just isn’t an option
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In the long list of insane things that humans do, using potable water to flush turds away must be near the top.
Our loo with a view
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Do you have to sing to let the rats get away before placing the buttocks.
And noone asked why there is a hand towel there with no obvious water for washing hands. Ahh, maybe its for wiping the smudges off yer hands
