beardface
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So what's the odds on 2021 being the start of WW3. We've had floods, fires, disease now war.....
Can you at least read up on the issue before spouting. This problem has been ongoing for years and this problem has a name, Vladimir Putin!If NATO is the problem then the solution is to act before Ukraine gets NATO membership.
Although TBH I doubt Russians will allow their fellow citizens to be annexed.
Can you at least read up on the issue before spouting. This problem has been ongoing for years and this problem has a name, Vladimir Putin!
Every time his popularity starts to fall he copies the actions of all good dictators. Attack a third country, but first establish spurious reasons to pretend you have legitimacy.
He has been stirring problems in the Ukraine for years to try and reclaim the old Russian empire from a people who have very good reason to hate the Russians.
Russian policy in the Ukraine during the 1930’s has comparisons to the Irish potato famine, except Stalins policies were very deliberate in exterminating a huge number of peasants, 5,000,000 plus. He then carted most of the remainder to the Gulag, those that survived the German onslaught of course.
The West was incredibly stupid in not taking very strong action when he marched into the Crimea, but were fooled in just the same way Chamberlain was with promises of peace in our time.
Sadly I have a horrific feeling we are going to see Russian action very soon with quite a possibility of China attacking Taiwan at the same time
Sadly I have a horrific feeling we are going to see Russian action very soon with quite a possibility of China attacking Taiwan at the same time
I agree. A Russia China union could easily fight a war on 2 fronts. Ukraine is a key asset to Russia in controlling the black sea and a back door into Europe. Taiwan is a strategic goal for China as a operational base in the Pacific. Best time to attack is when the world is more concerned about something else.
The West namely NATO were very stupid to quickly see Ukraine as an extension of their sphere of influence thus provoking Russia to act, you think if Russia were to put missiles on the Channel Islands it wouldn’t bring a reaction from the West.Can you at least read up on the issue before spouting. This problem has been ongoing for years and this problem has a name, Vladimir Putin!
Every time his popularity starts to fall he copies the actions of all good dictators. Attack a third country, but first establish spurious reasons to pretend you have legitimacy.
He has been stirring problems in the Ukraine for years to try and reclaim the old Russian empire from a people who have very good reason to hate the Russians.
Russian policy in the Ukraine during the 1930’s has comparisons to the Irish potato famine, except Stalins policies were very deliberate in exterminating a huge number of peasants, 5,000,000 plus. He then carted most of the remainder to the Gulag, those that survived the German onslaught of course.
The West was incredibly stupid in not taking very strong action when he marched into the Crimea, but were fooled in just the same way Chamberlain was with promises of peace in our time.
Sadly I have a horrific feeling we are going to see Russian action very soon with quite a possibility of China attacking Taiwan at the same time
I am afraid you are right. Then he will demand the return of the Baltic statesWell the Chinese and the Russians must look at the West and be laughing their heads off. The reaction over Covid shows the abject fear of Governments and the population to death shows that they will have no stomach for confrontation. Putin could probably walk into the Ukraine tomorrow and NATO’s response will be a strongly worded letter to the Times.
With Germany & many others now reliant on Russia for oil & gas does anyone really believe a finger would be lifted if Russia invades Ukraine. Poxy enviro fanatics are making the west ever more dependent on these crackpot countries & they damm well know it !!Well the Chinese and the Russians must look at the West and be laughing their heads off. The reaction over Covid shows the abject fear of Governments and the population to death shows that they will have no stomach for confrontation. Putin could probably walk into the Ukraine tomorrow and NATO’s response will be a strongly worded letter to the Times.
So what's the odds on 2021 being the start of WW3?
or vice versa.And while everyone is busy watching Ukraine & Russia the Israelis will nuke Iran off the map...
The Germans trying to get a trade agreement between the Ukraine and the EU was the trigger. They just can’t help themselves but try to expand east.The West has deliberately left Ukraine out of NATO as they knew very well that Russia would not like such action in its soft underbelly.
The Russians retook Crimea near ten years ago but this seems to have escaped some peoples notice. There was no populist desire in Crimea except from the few remaining Russians who had been planted by Stalin in the late 40’s after he deported the local population mainly Tartars, on mass to the Gulags ( concentration/ forced labour camps to the uninitiated ).
When the Ukraine was given its independence in the 1990’s it had a massive military arsenal and the bulk of the Soviet nuclear forces and the Russian federation could never have contemplated fighting a battle with them , but they have run down these stocks and not updated meaning they are relatively weak to the Russia today wghich is still spending very heavily on its military.
These spending patterns are very typical of democracies and dictatorships and is reflected across the world. In democracies people demand social justice , health and welfare.
People in dictatorships would like just the same so dictators use a combination of force to suppress them and jingoistic military adventures to persaude them that now is not the time for reform.
In the meantime the leaders steal the treasury for their own hedonistic lifestyles
It's called international trade. Forty percent of all Ukraine's trade is done with the EU.The Germans trying to get a trade agreement between the Ukraine and the EU was the trigger. They just can’t help themselves but try to expand east.