That's what I'd call a grass thief
at least it was only one.
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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at least it was only one.We have 50 odd swans on a regular basis... Apparently 2 swans is worth a sheep.
Don't they taste much the same a goose ?
Jonny B88
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- ballykelly. NI
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Are you wanting a break crop between grass or grass to grass?
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- somerset
the l/lord is very particular with gates, and posts, all field gate posts are built up in natural stone, looks smart, then he ruins the effect by constantly repairing wooden gates, well into their dotage, so gates cannot be altered. We have some very heavy duty springs coming, so lets hope. L/lord is a really nice chap, known him as far back as l can remember, but as with 'old' money, he is tight fisted, wants everything just so, but will bodge repairs, on the cheap. If springs don't work, going to try inner tube gate to post. Rent is well under going rate, so will put up with some hassle.
It's rained, at long last, 3 good soakings, more en-route, even though it's still cold, grass is moving, the re-seed has greened up markedly. And, in a further twist, we are not totally convinced it's shepherds purse, don't think it's chickory, agreement on that, at least.
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- Derbyshire
Sheep - they just rob the paddocks of grass!
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- somerset
that's dangerous, following us ! But if you don't try it, you will never know, works here, l look at is as cultivating the soil, often quite deep, but not exposing the top soil to sun, as ploughing would, and saving the 'goodies''
P pasture to reseed, heavy dose of round-up, leave 14 days minimum, d/d stubble turnips, or rape, then access, is there a plough pan, or any other problem, if not, d/d your grass, or tine, shallow p/h and drill/spin on, and roll. If it's pp, there is probably a bit of 'weed control', or non productive grasses, r/u will clean up, rape will give a break, and everything is re-set, just think of r/u as a tool in the box, used only when necessary, to re-seed p/p, it's an important tool, the job needs to be done correctly, or it's an expensive mistake.
That’s roughly where I am for the growing cattle. It is tricky with what to do when it seeds, also depends on species present. Ryegrass is about the worst.I don’t know, but what I’m trialling is grazing a mob of 30 yearling bullocks and heifers in paddocks that started out at around 0.57acres. I am trying not to take too much and leave a little but not an excessive amount behind. At a guess id say they’re going into about 3200-3500 and out at around 2000-2200 or so. Of course I could be widely off, a plate meter would be of limited use I think because in my opinion it doesn’t measure flattened grass it just assumes its gone.
last evening i felt what i moved them off was leaving too much behind so i have given them about 0.4acres. Moving every day so far. Don’t want to eat to tight as that will effect cattle performance and growth of grass.
interestingly of all the grass on the farm at the moment the stuff left behind them appears to be growing and recovering better than anything else. Growth very poor here yet.
i am also not sure how i will combat the seeding of the grass whether i keep them going around the block inside 20-30 days and then stretch it out after that by reducing paddock size. All the while leaving a little more plant behind?
This is the bunch I spoke about last night cows and calves so they can eat it out especially as growth is slow. 35 units on a quarter of a hectare for half a day. Will see in the morning if my calculations are about right.
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- somerset
welly or boot measure works well, no calculation required. You soon learn what amount is there, and how much to allocate, with strip/back fence, and dairy cows, x2 moves a day, if short or too much, easy to rectify in feed 2. Intake can vary a lot with just weather conditions, let alone anything else.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Do you want to change the main species, or just jump it up a notch?
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- Owaka, New Zealand
I'd believe it. We had around 180 canada geese stopover and they certainly left their mark!
Grass looked the same colour out the back as what went in the front, I reckon they can maybe eat ⅓kgDM a day?
I think so. Interactive is regenerative!
I guess that's the trouble with books, they have 'direction' right up until the last page. Then they stop.... so it takes another book to keep that evolutionary quality going
the other issue with written media is that they always give the answers... points for showing your workings, but they still give the answers!
I would rather give you all questions
Whitewalker
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Can these be attached directly to mains with a non return valve?
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- Owaka, New Zealand
you'd want either a header tank with an airgap or a checkvalve in the line.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
In theory.
(In practice, they would be fine, because they hold less water than the pipe you'd have feeding them, literally only a litre or 2)
(In practice, they would be fine, because they hold less water than the pipe you'd have feeding them, literally only a litre or 2)
In practice its all bull but thats the rules
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Surely, even if you did write it, the questions would be the theme.
Maybe we all just link folk to this thread. Podcast producers, regen influencers etc. I do believe it could really help those curious enough to see that it's absolutely not a recipe, that questioning yourself and doing your own trials is key.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
I agree. I can see why, I mean our housewater tank has the inlet near the bottom, so in a loss of pressure it could easily put water back, 30,000 litres of water into a water pipe
In a negative pressure event with one of these, there is really nothing in them to backflow that wasn't in the pipe feeding it anyway, which you'd hope was fresh water if it came out of the main ...
We are using a dosatron to fill our header tank for the farm system, hence having an airgap where the water goes in to that, and a DCV where we get our water from (a gate valve on one of the reservoir tanks) because of a possible failure of the checkvalve built into the dosatron and the minute chance that gravity reverses itself and water flows uphill. Can't really be too safe when it comes to peoples drinking water.
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- Derbyshire
Yes (but don't let your water supplier find out
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- somerset
water. On our old spring, reservoir system, won a lot of bets, with people telling me our spring, is lower the the reservoir, it isn't, it's 8 ft lower, but people swear it's higher, the pipe is not straight, it's about x3 the distance spring to reservoir, follows the bank round. This is to show water can flow up hill ! When the linking pipe had to be replaced, the old chap that 'did' water work, was absolutely certain that our water flowed uphill, using a siphon principle, and got all set up, to replace it, when we put the measuring level poles up, we were all gobsmacked, when the reality was 8ft lower, and not the other way round. Water is funny stuff, it doesn't always work in the logical way, we are on a pressure system now, but one line will not push the water up, with any pressure, despite not being long, or uphill, and we have run a new pipe on top of ground, no difference !
Just heard the weather forecast, sun with showers, a bit of warmth, it would be perfect, but another hard frost last night.
Just heard the weather forecast, sun with showers, a bit of warmth, it would be perfect, but another hard frost last night.
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- somerset
we have a trough, on our supply, right next to our only water meter, just in case of a problem, if the pump/electric failed, without that, we would be stuffed.Yes (but don't let your water supplier find out