Overseeding with pest resistant herbs/ legumes?

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crashbox

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• May 4, 2021

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Got some old (ryegrass once upon a time) pasture, can't rip it up and use a break crop as already taken a chunk of the grazing platform out of production for break crops and full reseed.

Are there any species of herbs/legumes resistant to the common grassland pests (frit fly, wire worm, leather jackets, etc.)?

E.g. overseed brassica, plantain, chicory, red/white clovers, into the existing sward?

Already tried overseeding grass and it failed... (direct drilled in September).

It is for grazing dairy cows.

 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France

• May 4, 2021

• #2

I've tried overseeding chicory etc into an old pasture with a grassland farmer drill, forget it start afresh!

 

Great In Grass

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Cornwall.

• May 4, 2021

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crashbox said:

Got some old (ryegrass once upon a time) pasture, can't rip it up and use a break crop as already taken a chunk of the grazing platform out of production for break crops and full reseed.

Are there any species of herbs/legumes resistant to the common grassland pests (frit fly, wire worm, leather jackets, etc.)?

E.g. overseed brassica, plantain, chicory, red/white clovers, into the existing sward?

Already tried overseeding grass and it failed... (direct drilled in September).

It is for grazing dairy cows.

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If the grass overseed failed then legumes and herbs will fail (they mostly do).

 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion

• May 4, 2021

• #4

Was it early September or late and where are you ?
How bare when you drilled ?

 

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crashbox

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• May 4, 2021

• #5

Derrick Hughes said:

Was it early September or late and where are you ?
How bare when you drilled ?

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South coast, mid Sept, didn't get any rain for a long while. Grass not super tight, perhaps it is best to run a mower over it before drilling.
I've had 3 attempts at overseeding grasses into existing established grass, and none have ever worked...

 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion

• May 4, 2021

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Have you tried small amount off roundup . Will stop the grass growing for two month

 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France

• May 4, 2021

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Derrick Hughes said:

Have you tried small amount off roundup . Will stop the grass growing for two month

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And you wonder why things become resistant to chemicals!!

 

Treg

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Cornwall

• May 4, 2021

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neilo

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Montgomeryshire

• May 4, 2021

• #9

Treg said:

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Will he have anything but docks to graze in a couple of years?

 

Treg

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Cornwall

• May 5, 2021

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neilo said:

Will he have anything but docks to graze in a couple of years?

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It wasn't quite the video of him I was after, in another video he has a covered bucket of seed in each field and takes a hand full and spreads it each time he sees the cows.
He's only a few miles away from me & I only hear good things about the way he farms...unusual for someone doing things differently.
He also makes very good cheese ,Cornish Yarg.