Drawing lambs - Overnight weight loss

Jerry

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
To get a decent slot in Exeter of a Monday for NSL you need to be at the gate soon after 6am as the queues can be an hour as numbers build.

I’ve always like to draw lambs fresh of the ewes and take them straight in. That means now I need to have sheep in by 4:30am.

Lambs are weighed on arrival in market.

How much will lambs loose if drawn evening before and put inside with creep?
 
To get a decent slot in Exeter of a Monday for NSL you need to be at the gate soon after 6am as the queues can be an hour as numbers build.

I’ve always like to draw lambs fresh of the ewes and take them straight in. That means now I need to have sheep in by 4:30am.

Lambs are weighed on arrival in market.

How much will lambs loose if drawn evening before and put inside with creep?
Just rock up at 9.
 

z.man

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Mixed Farmer
Location
central scotland
To get a decent slot in Exeter of a Monday for NSL you need to be at the gate soon after 6am as the queues can be an hour as numbers build.

I’ve always like to draw lambs fresh of the ewes and take them straight in. That means now I need to have sheep in by 4:30am.

Lambs are weighed on arrival in market.

How much will lambs loose if drawn evening before and put inside with creep?
3kg, if on creep maybe a little less, depending on how full of grass they are, they probably won’t eat much if straight off their mothers....will be to busy bleating
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
3kg usually in urine and poo. I don’t know why people load straight into lorries though, I’ve got some going in the next hour, they were in by 6.30, tagged and marked 7-8 days ago, won’t be long and I’ll be marking 12-14 days in advance. Just went through a bunch now and every lamb hasn’t put on a single KG in 7 days, they have been stood in for 2.5 hours in the pens with their mothers though but this wet weather has hit them!
 

Jerry

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
Another option is to mark the fat ones a few days before. Then on the morning of sale draft them out and away you go. Means getting them in twice, but less time pressure on market day.

yes. I already do that. Weigh on Thursday normally
 

JSmith

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Livestock Farmer
I was worried about this but I’ve been drawing them the night before an putting on a fresh paddock by the yard with creep an haven’t found them to loose a lot of weight at all, they’ve been on a desert though and are probably happy to eat fresh green half the night!! They do call an wander a bit but they’ve eaten the creep every time, I draw them in the afternoon so it’s only an overnight job!! Not done it before due to the concerns mentioned above but it’s worked well so far
 

Agrivator

Member
Almost every seller is in the same boat. But lambs used to creep or still with their mothers when you wean and load them will lose about 1kg less than lambs standing without feed from the evening before.

But regular sellers will probably have regular buyers who will buy on reputation - how your lambs kill out and sometimes on how much luck you might leave!!!!
 

exmoor dave

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Location
exmoor, uk
To get a decent slot in Exeter of a Monday for NSL you need to be at the gate soon after 6am as the queues can be an hour as numbers build.

I’ve always like to draw lambs fresh of the ewes and take them straight in. That means now I need to have sheep in by 4:30am.

Lambs are weighed on arrival in market.

How much will lambs loose if drawn evening before and put inside with creep?


IMO stick to what you are doing..... the current prices at least make it all worth while big time.


We do the same for lambs going pre- weaning.
In at very first light and sort quickly as we can
 

MJT

Member
I’d say they’d lose an extra KG at least from being in the night before . Running around bleating for their mother’s will make them lose weight fast. We weigh and Mark on the Wednesday or Thursday for Monday market and then when splitting on Monday morning weigh the marked ones again to check, take no extra time as the scales is halfway up the race. Gives piece of mind what they should roughly be when go over market scales then, sometimes get odd one that’s lost a couple of Kg in those few days for whatever reason.
 

Agrivator

Member
I’d say they’d lose an extra KG at least from being in the night before . Running around bleating for their mother’s will make them lose weight fast. We weigh and Mark on the Wednesday or Thursday for Monday market and then when splitting on Monday morning weigh the marked ones again to check, take no extra time as the scales is halfway up the race. Gives piece of mind what they should roughly be when go over market scales then, sometimes get odd one that’s lost a couple of Kg in those few days for whatever reason.

that depends on the relative accuracy of your scales versus the market scales.
 

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