The NI/ROI Protocol

So what you are saying is that secularism trumps religion. I must leave my beliefs and my God out of politics, but no one else must? The secularists, humanists, bunny huggers, etc, can pedlar their fruitcake nonsense in politics, but no one else?

What you are saying is, you don't share my religious views, so I am not entitled to have them.

What happened to civil and religious liberty?
I think he was meaning that being religious and having political career aren't particularly compatible because one promotes honesty and the other pretty much demands dishonesty.
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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So then

The UK tells the EU it's leaving
The UK signs up to a deal which it didn't have to
The UK changes it's mind about part of the deal it negotiated and signed up to and wants a change.
The EU says no.

And I thought the UK held all the cards

Think you may well find the UK holds the cards but for stupid political reasons has chosen not to use them yet! Don't be fooled into believing that won't change at some point.
 
Then exactly the same rules should apply to every quantity of food, drink, flowers etc that are sent across the channel from the EU to us, let's see how they like a taste of their own medicine!
Let's not play the victim here, it's part of a deal that was signed by both sides.

Your suggestion would be yet another change.

Incoming goods are more difficult/expensive to import from the EU than before we left.
I accept that, and my EU supplier absorbs half of the extra cost.
I never expected to have cake and eat it. Surely nobody was that stupid
 

Ashtree

Member
Think you may well find the UK holds the cards but for stupid political reasons has chosen not to use them yet! Don't be fooled into believing that won't change at some point.

Thing is that apparently UK, has held all the cards since even before the referendum.
Five years on it hasn’t played as much as one of them. Wonder why?
 

Ashtree

Member
I know @nivilla1982 should be along any minute on his bike with mailbag over his shoulder, to keep all on TFF abreast of latest developments in NI. I thought as this is a massive story, that I should help out by carrying some of the load...

It‘s a story of wanton slaughter and murder of 10 innocent people by the Paras in NI. Extra judicial executions sponsored by and excused by the British state. A story of fifty years of cover up by the British state. A story where 10 people were shot in cold blood, and there was no police investigation. Not that a police investigation would have helped, as the RUC as it was then, would have “found” no evidence of wrongdoing.

 

br jones

Member
I know @nivilla1982 should be along any minute on his bike with mailbag over his shoulder, to keep all on TFF abreast of latest developments in NI. I thought as this is a massive story, that I should help out by carrying some of the load...

It‘s a story of wanton slaughter and murder of 10 innocent people by the Paras in NI. Extra judicial executions sponsored by and excused by the British state. A story of fifty years of cover up by the British state. A story where 10 people were shot in cold blood, and there was no police investigation. Not that a police investigation would have helped, as the RUC as it was then, would have “found” no evidence of wrongdoing.

your a pr*ck,died in a gun battle ?
 

Ashtree

Member
Do come along now. Swarm a protest attended by gunmen, but end up shooting only unarmed civilIans. Some of them in the back. Could be forgiven for thinking they kept well away from the “gunmen”! Paras wouldn‘t do that now, would they.
 

The Agrarian

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
The British state and its arms will at least allow itself to examined via a court of law and admit to its wrongs.
For context in 1972 the PIRA planted 1800 bombs.
I also note an apparent unwillingness for the ROI authorities to open its files/records for investigation.

Didn't stop gutsy Coveney mouthing off, whatever he thought it had to do with him. He's a big man when in his own back yard.
 

Ashtree

Member
Encouraging though to watch Naomi Long on RTE provide a crystal clear summary of the outcome. She calls it out for what it was. Murder.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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